Hostile Work Environment -- Why Human Resources Doesn't Care About You

Updated on April 22, 2016

The H.R. Department Is NOT Where to Turn for Help With a Hostile Work Environment

In the course of the last year I have counseled hundreds of employees over the phone and via email who are suffering at their jobs, dreading the act of going into work each day, and full of panic that they may soon be fired. Usually a supervisor, and often a new supervisor, has turned the employee's otherwise likeable job into a series of run-in's, each one more humiliating and degrading than the last. When the employee reaches their absolute wit's end, they muster up their courage, write out their thoughts on a yellow pad, and sneak off to the Human Resources Department "to file a formal complaint." When the distressed employee arrives he or she doesn't know their legal rights or have a grasp of what actions a supervisor can legally take at work. So the employee sits down in an office with a smiling H.R. Rep on the other side of the desk. It's so nice to have someone to talk to, someone to finally listen, that the employee spills out all their throughts and frustrations that have been building up inside. The H.R. Rep smiles and nods and writes down some notes. The employee is comforted by the smiling and nodding, and so the employee keeps talking, telling H.R. every unfair or hurtful thing the boss has said or done.

The H.R. Rep Will Smile and Nod While You Talk About Your Boss
The H.R. Rep Will Smile and Nod While You Talk About Your Boss

When The Meeting With H.R. is Over

After meeting with H.R. most employees feel better about their situation. They feel "heard"; they feel like the company is taking their concerns seriously. The employee is confident that it will not be long until their bullying boss gets what is coming to them.

H.R. typically says "We will thoroughly look into the important issues you've raised," and "We'll get back to you next week." The week goes slowly, but it does seem like the boss is treating the employee better that week. The employee wonders if H.R. already interviewed the boss, who now understands that his or her bullying ways had better change, or they could lose their job.

Human Resources Will Conduct an Investigation
Human Resources Will Conduct an Investigation

The Post-Investigation Meeting With H.R.

The employee who "filed a formal complaint" with Human Resources feels better for the week in between meetings with H.R. The employee then hears from the H.R. Rep, who says that the investigation is complete.  The H.R. Rep would like the employee to "come meet with me to go over it." The employee imagines reading through the pages of an investigation report that confirms the boss is a serial harasser and employee abuser. The employee imagines the boss being demoted or suspended, and possibly even fired.

It's with these thoughts in mind that the employee goes to the Human Resources Department for the follow up meeting. The H.R. Rep greets the employee at the entrance to the department -- the Rep is still smiling and seems genuinely happy to see the employee.  The employee smiles back.

The H.R. Rep guides the employee past the office where they talked before, and gestures instead to a confernence room. The employee steps inside, and as the H.R. Rep shuts the door behind them the employee receives the shock of her life.

Have You Ever Put Your Trust in Human Resources?
Have You Ever Put Your Trust in Human Resources?

The Tables are Turned

The employee walks into the conference room and looks at who is sitting at the table. Seated across it is the scowling VP of H.R. and the employee's own boss.  The employee's boss is grinning. 

What happens next is the workplace version of a bloodbath. The H.R. Rep sits down next to the employee (and the H.R. Rep is still smiling) and says "We thoroughly investigated your complaint and we were unable to substantiate any of the issues you mentioned. Because there is no illegal discrimination here, your complaint is now closed."

"However," says the VP of HR with a furrowed brow, "your own job performance, or lack there of, is very concerning." As the VP of H.R. says this he opens a thick file, and passes around copies of a five page document titled "Employee Mid-Year Performance Review." The bully supervisor continues to sit there in silence, nodding and smirking.

The employee is so shocked and distraught that he or she has difficulty remembering the details of what was said for the rest of the meeting. An hour later the employee leaves the conference room in stunned silence. The employee leaves carrying a two page document titled "Final Employee Written Warning>"  The employee does not go back to working for the rest of the day, but instead drives home and goes to bed. The next day the employee calls in sick, and is thinking that resigning may be the only option.

"What happened?" The employee keeps asking, over and over. "How did that happen?"

Who Does H.R. Work For?

If you put your trust in H.R. to help you fight back against your bully boss, this is what will happen to you, too. Not to say that you should never go to H.R., but don't count on them to fix anything for you. In fact, you should expect them to attack and undermine your complaint.

Why? Because this is what H.R. is paid to do. Human Resources' purpose is to save the company money by defending the company against claims by employees. H.R. is paid to be on the other side. HR is the other side.

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      Sarah 

      7 days ago

      Can anyone tell me how they resolved their problem with the human resource person being "the problem"? I would like to quit but am not willing to let them bully me into quitting.

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      Em 

      4 weeks ago

      I didn't go to HR when my boss continually bullied me - we were HR and she was the HR manager. I eventually resigned to avoid a complete breakdown after she papered my file with complete falsehoods and sent me a performance management letter with not only false allegations but things she had messed up were blamed on me. I never want to work in HR again. It was the most toxic environment I have ever worked in.

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      Speechless 

      4 weeks ago

      Wow... this is exactly what happened to me when I filed a hostile work environment..,

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      Dave 

      5 weeks ago

      I couldn’t agree more with this article, I was screwed over by HR, they are not there to help you as an employee.

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      Jimmy 

      5 weeks ago

      I just work for a major medical company. My supervisor calls me into his office everyday to lay into me for nothing I've done, just cussing me out about everything. I just keep quiet and say nothing and it gets worse. I am don't feel that I can got to HR because I am a new hire. He adjusted my shift so I can be with him all day and it goes on and on. Please can someone advise me? thank you

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      Kailie 

      7 weeks ago

      I used to go to Hr alot about all the favouritism in our Department, they of course bring you in, and have a little talk, smile at you and blame you for everything. Now i go about their heads when i want action taken, they go ballistic, and i just sit back and smile....

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      Ant 

      2 months ago

      I had to go to HR for something my boss and another employee were lying about something and the associate put her two cents in my evaluation. After HR dealt with it, I was ostracized and ignored by everyone at work. It’s a terrible feeling

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      unhappy 

      3 months ago

      I've had this happen to me as well right after I took a couple of FMLA disability leave of absence for surgery a while ago. I was being targeted and work sabotaged. HR did nothing but tell my manager. Before I went out another leave for another surgery recently, I emailed HR and expressed concerns for going on leave due to the other malicious activities that took place when I was out the last time. She again did nothing. Low and behold I went on leave and came back to my manager fabricating allegations of unprofessionalism and for me supposedly creating a hostile work environment for delegating work to others, when I followed his email and verbal instruction to delegate work to others. Two weeks after my return from the leave, I was fired. Although before I went on leave, I was a star performer. He and HR removed all positive things from my files and left only negative hand written comments. Surprise on them! I started recording my meetings with my manager a couple weeks before I notified him of my upcoming leave and also started forwarding emails of his positive comments just prior and hundreds of kudos to my personal account just in case. I now have a solid case and an attorney! DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!!

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      Dina 

      3 months ago

      Tanya below says that this is 100% b.s-ofcourse she says that, she is H.R.this happens! this is real, I experienced this identical situation at work, it was horrible, I did not deserve it, no one does, it takes a pretty bad situation to contact H.R.,in the 1st place, and it only got worse after that, I was lucky and already had another job set up, so I quit the horrible place, told my co-workers before I left to never go to H.R. for help when it is a harassment situation, only for help with non-complaints. my last meeting with H.R. was also with the manager (supvsr's boss) and they accused me of saying things that I didn't say and turned everything around on me & made me appear to be the harasser!, I had been at that company a lot of years-but I am so glad that I am gone! I wish I would have set my phone to record the meetings, it would have been a law suite! But, I am just glad i'm not there anymore!

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      Janet 

      3 months ago

      Why do you think being yelled at is illegal in the work place?

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      Hopeless 

      4 months ago

      It's hard to understand what I did to my boss I am always the first one to volunteer for any task that need to be done. I try and do my job as best as possible. I am her assistant manager but she hates me..I know people think im over exaggerating but she has spread so many rumors about me. I am HR for our store but whenever I have a concern about someone she tells them what I have shared with her. I feel like I am going crazy she does so many little thing that are building up. I can't do my job properly because I can't tell her anything and it sucks.it took me 3 years to go from associate to manager and I feel like she is slowly taking all my hard work away. What do I do? He is a joke I have called before and nothing. It is 2am where I am now and can't sleep because of all the stress and anxiety I have. I feel so beaten down and disappointed.

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      Sent this to HR person completing an investigation 

      4 months ago

      Can someone explain to me why ************* keeps showing up to a meeting I host that does not involve his operations or employees. I know in the past my manager asked me to invite him, he has never actually showed up until after being notified that I filed an HR complaint against him. This invite is no longer valid due to the current situations. I asked two simple things for HR to ensure while this extensively long investigation is ongoing. That was:

      I do not feel comfortable in the same room with him, no matter how many people are present.

      I have request no communication other than email.

      Please explain why I had to leave my meeting and go home for the day after being put in this incredibly difficult situation. This individual has sexually harassed me, touched me inappropriately, called me demeaning and belittling names, called me false terms of endearment while touching me inappropriately and used forceful actions holding me down against my will. I have asked the individual to stop numerous times and he tries to give “Grumpy Wumpy Mikey a Hug” to make a joke and further my discomfort. He has tried this numerous times after I have said not to. I have filed two HR complaints against this individual and yet No one can take actions to protect the victim and his feelings.

      Next email will go to the entire company, to include the president and it will come from my Lawyer.

      Thanks

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      Mary 

      4 months ago

      I had the sane issue. Our manager got a huge boss fired and threatened to do the same to me and others. Refusing to teach me, which was her job and barating me in front of customers. I was let go without notice or any formal training after I told HR of the issues. They told me I was not good dealing with the public but was never given actual circumstances where I was, nor have I ever had a complaint. Happy to be out of there and have found something much better! HR is crap.

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      a-employee 

      7 months ago

      my husband is a shift lead where we work and a employee of his threatened him with Violence and our HR department and his direct manager is brushing it under the table. He complained to both moments after it happened, Hr didnt interview people who saw it til 3 weeks later. Another co-worker saw the write up they were "going" to give the person who threatened him and went and told said person, then he went to HR to complain that someone else knew about the situation....now there going to sweep it all under the rug, and say that they dont have enough evidence to believe my husbands side of the story. Now My husbands going to quit cause he doesnt feel safe or backed up at all and near do I .....what do we do...what can we do????

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      David 

      7 months ago

      I love when HR departments behave in the way you describe. It opens them up to EEOC charges of retaliation and discrimination. Let them act like morons. It only benefits the smart worker in the long wrong.

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      Leaving my job 

      7 months ago

      Who do you report HR to when they sit quietly by in a meeting while the Executive Director is screaming at the administrative staff? This Executive Director routinely abuses the staff. HR is very much aware of this persons abuse of authority and of staff.

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      LiveandLearnLauriel 

      8 months ago

      After being self employed for 30 years and running two businesses I had decided to follow my heart into working in healthcare or similar where I could be of service. I took a job at a residential drug rehab center. In short I didn't do it for the money orvthe glamorous (lol) setting. I was over qualified to say the least. My supervisor was thrilled with my work performance and contributions frequently leaving me messages on how I was the anchor of my shift and how he appreciated my work ethic. They were applying for a government contract and with an audit on the horizon frankly their compliance was so bad they'd never have a chance. So he asked me to observe, report and recommend anything needing improvement. I did and I was brutally honest. He always would say it's ok I'd rather know now then in the middle of the audit. I always provided a solution to anything I found. Staff were starting to be offended and dislike me. I knew it was because no one noticed they were being lazy and running the show. I started to uncover things not meant to be noticed. And eventually I suspect that my supervisor got in trouble for digging up dirt and the only way to save himself was to make me the bad guy. It wasn't long after I was being talked to and things brought to my attention that were ridiculous exaggerations or not something I did. I stopped getting all the kudos and I could feel a pressure I was being pushed out. I loved this job and I made a difference. I started getting accused of horrible things when I'm always the most responsible there. When I would get questioned about it I never left feeling like anyone believed me but as if they were building me up into a bad employee. Then a horrible allegation that I was having an inappropriate relationship with a resident client and completely untrue. I was called in my day off and asked if I could come to work. I thought I was covering for someone. When I arrived I was taken into an office and literally interrogated by my supervisor and someone from corporate. It was awful and I was shocked. They stated my story matched that of the client but they asked for my keys and that I was on paid leave until they finished investigation for at least 4 days. I cried the whole way home. Also the entire male clientele of 100 and some 30 staff all knew about this before I did and even our company policy states it only between investigators the accused and the reporter. It escalated to quite the sensationalized scandal. I was called the next day and told since there is nothing else to investigate I can return to work. No much of an apology or anything. I was really nervous returning but tried to act as if nothing happened. However I could walk thru the front door without staff teasing me and making innuendos and jokes. Male clients I had worked hard to earn their respect now handed me their phone numbers. It was horrible and stressful. I asked my supervisor and his superior for help and then put it in writing when nothing was done. I was simply told - it's the way it is around here. They love gossip and soon it will be something else and they will forget. And the staff knows you were cleared of any wrong doings. Well the reporting person was so miffed she wasn't right she avoided me and rallied most of the staff to do the same. I cried in my car every day after work. I was filled with anxiety thinking of going to work. In fact I called in sick quite a bit which I never do. I had requested to view my personnel file to be sure there was nothing derogatory in it about this. I was ignored and put off and finally when I stated they were in violation of the time limit to provide access and I was entitled to the compensation of the fine, I got a response. I also got a call to come in for my 30 day interview (6months late). It was a horrible review. I got 2s out of 10. When I got home that night I got a text message that my boss had not scheduled me and I would be on-call. I had senority but I knew what was happening. Less hours theyvwere hoping I'd quit. So I waited and never got a call for 2 weeks. I emailed HR on 8/15/2917 to ask if my reduction in hours was affecting benefits and she replied I no longer worked there as of 8/9/2017 and didnt I get the termination letter sent out with my final check? No because they mailed it to the wrong address. I updated it which I have HR confirming they got and would take care of. It took another week to get to me. Weird is that on the 8th I told them they were in violation of the personnel file access and as per the labor board a fine of $750 was due and on the 9th they prepare a termination letter? My coworker informed me they were trying to fire me over something and thought they had me on the client code of conduct report but they realized if they fired me over it they would have to discipline the client too and he's a Federal referred placement and you don't kick them out they are big bucks and the Feds don't like them not finishing a program. It's a very dirty place and they usually hire inept staff so they can get away with what they do. They mistake they made was hiring someone who could see what they are up to.

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      Laking8 

      8 months ago

      This story sounds almost identical to my current situation. No performance issues until complaining to HR about discrimination for taking maternity and separate medical leave in 2016. Now I'm all of the sudden on formal warning. I've never been on warning for anything and I've worked for this company most of my adult life (over 15 years). No attorney in my town will give me a chance and I have a ton of documentation. I work for a very large corporation; which is probably why no one wants to go up against them. I filed an EEOC complaint but with their high case load, I don't have much hope. I'm looking for another job obviously but it's not easy the leave the company, for my area of expertise.

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      Melanie 

      8 months ago

      I am and HR manager and I can tell you this is NOT the case at my company. HR balances on a fine line every day between protecting the employee and the employer. Depending onthe situation we lean more towards the employee or more towards the employer and occasionally, we have to total jump off the line on one side or the other. I am in constant battles with the managers of our company on DOL, EEOC, and other employment law departments on what is the right thing to do. When I receive a grievance, I have a process in place that gives the employee the path to resolution. You are characterizing every HR department in this article and it's simply not true for every company.

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      Cathy 

      9 months ago

      Any employer who brings up performance after a harasment claim is made is getting foolish advise. A retaliation charge is worse than the harassment charge.

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      Monica 

      9 months ago

      Myself and other employees have witnessed bulling and unfair treatment to this one employee, heard her say its because she wants her gone from the office, how can we back her up. Should i make a complaint?

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      Tamira 

      10 months ago

      If you at all think that this is happening to you go to EEOC the equal employment opportunity commission will help you out. don't wait to long because that can be used against you by your employer. HRC lawyers can give you information. File a police report so you can have evidence in public record of your concerns about your boss.

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      Travis 

      10 months ago

      Organize. Get a good union in there to fight for you.

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      Thomas 

      10 months ago

      So then what should be done?

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      Bradley 

      10 months ago

      Betty needs to be demoted for her lack luster of professionalism she likes to humiliate people in front of a room full instead its behind closed doors she trys really hard for drama I think she needs anger managent 5701s western okc ok

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      Jobless for 9 months 

      10 months ago

      this is still totally relevant had this same thing happen to me. had a women manager harass me touching me and asking me to come over to her house to repair her hard drive. went to hr thinking I just need to talk to someone about this. The HR Manager MS. love was friends with the manager and her and her friend sat there and gave me the choice to quit or they would file a forging publics documents charge on me. based on complete bull that i had lied on my resume. i corrected her and the hr lady started to cry and accuse me of being a horrible person. I was not mean or nasty simply stated that she was wrong and that i worked for the company for 10 months. so i asked if i could go. and she told me no i still have to choose between being fired for public forgery or quit. i quit. sadly HR doesn't care about you. HR people dont care about any employee. i had an open case and they threw the book at me for opening a case. because they where friends.

      It's their jobs to make you go quietly. they are nasty heartless people never divulge anything to HR they are your enemy. eeoc has my case now. and I am still jobless. No one will hire me because i quit a government job after 6 months and left another after 10 months. I am ruined my skills are dwindling into nothing. I am out of money and It's because someone touched me and I am a male. I cant even provide for the person I love.

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      Sadverysad 

      11 months ago

      But what do you do about this then? This is my exact story but luckily I have not filed a complaint about my boss YET. I was discussing it today! Best keep my mouth shut with the slimy HR but what do I do??? Help!

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      Sam 

      11 months ago

      But... where do you go then?

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      Anna Goldberg 

      12 months ago

      I need to get consultation about how HR poorly handled the case with hostile environment . My e-mail is annagoldberg512@yahoo.com

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      Tanya DuPras 

      12 months ago

      I'm an HR Manager and that is fundamentally untrue - you can simply ask any of our hundreds of employees if I've fixed their issues with management and I have. This is BS 100%

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      Andrea Mann 

      13 months ago

      Help! One of my harrasers at work just made a complaint to hr and wrote in an email and ccd his assistant He knew i made harrassment complaints before (his friend / colleague charged me came within a cm of my face and told me i wasnt safe in front of witnesses - yes i made a complaint and what you described was exactly what happened and made things worse for 7 years now.) HR called. Isnt it illegal to share confidential HR info? Do i need to respond to hr and the 'complaint' (i told him ccing his assistant while berating / accusing me was inapropriate)? Do i have a legal recourse? Can i just ignore hr?

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      Anonymous 

      13 months ago

      This article is SO TRUE. My previous work did just what this article warns. Disgusting.

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      Linda 

      14 months ago

      I have been discriminated against at my place of employment. I fought basically on my own to get my shift back. I did a lot of research on our policies and documented everything. I now am up against being manipulated into giving mu supervisor copy of my ADA request form with all my information on it. In turn, my manager used tje information on the form to try and have me fired. I believe this os a hipaa violation. As well, my personal information has been shared with coworkers one coworker I have had complaints about in the past, is sharing my i information with people in other departments. Is this something I can take to EEOC?

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      XXZZXX 

      14 months ago

      Great advice but what do you do when your HR director is the one creating a hostile work environment for you and is an abuser? This HR director undermines her managers in front of their employees. Team knows that they can run to her and complain and get their way. She changes rules in the middle of projects putting many at risk. She changes plans 10 minutes before a meeting when she's had a week to prepare.

      Everyone refers to her by Queen and then her first name.

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      sheila 

      14 months ago

      I have experienced something very similar to this situation in my 10 years of working in a corporate environment. This is my sixth corporate job in 10 years. I left every single one of those jobs because of something political/unethical happening. I was fired from one of those jobs and "laid off" from another back to back. I have hope each time with each new job that things will be different, but each time it is the same or gets worse.

      I was really happy at my 5th corporate job because I had a super supportive boss who was a very decent human being. When our department got a new department head, guess who was the first person they wanted gone? They took me away from my favorite boss I've ever had and had me work under them. Then they ignored me and basically put me in a corner. I was then ostracized by everyone. It's so crazy because right before that department head came there, I was getting awards, given more work, and being told I was doing a really good job. I was devastated that someone would just take me from a boss that I got along with so well.

      I left that company and started working at my 6th corporate job. Two months into the new job and one of my co-workers files an HR complaint on me. This set me into a bit of a deeper depression. I was still trying to get over what happened at my 5th corporate job and bam this happens.

      I was a little bit more confident this time around in dealing with the situation because the co-worker who complained on me had started to show his true colors to everyone around the office. The thing that surprises me though is how he has managed to survive despite all of the antics he pulls on a daily basis. Despite the fact that this guy is a narcissistic trouble maker, they still went through with a formal investigation. It was absolutely ridiculous. I kept thinking I was going to wake up from the nightmare. Despite all of that, I managed to get through it and come out on the other side keeping my job, as well as him keeping his job also. Everything had been better for 2 months since then because my boss buffered the situation a lot (even though she did not take my side during any part of the investigation).

      My boss goes on maternity leave 2 weeks ago and guess who immediately starts up on me again? Yep, he went to HR on me and he went to the guy who is our reporting supervisor while my boss is out on maternity leave. I didn't do anything and he made up things about me. He lies all of the time. I feel like he was waiting until she went on maternity leave so he could go for his final "kill" of destroying my reputation at work.

      There is a part of me that is not worried at all because anyone with any kind of sense would know exactly what this guy is up too. So there is a part of me who is super confident I will come out of this with no ding on me and they will see right through him. BUT, then I remember that this is a corporate environment where up means down, left means right, and people behave unethically even when they know what is right or wrong. So, the part I'm worried about is their actions about the situation. I will find out on Monday and I have a lot of anxiety about the situation because I've experienced so many bad situations from HR and corporate work environments. These things never go well. I will probably come out of the situation with keeping my job, but my reputation will be damaged for no good reason!

      This just has to stop! There has to be a way to make things better in corporate environments. A large percent of our jobs in America are in corporate work environments. We need more laws protecting us. I don't know what the solution is. This has happened to me in my last 6 jobs, and after reading what has happened to all of you, it sounds like this is very common.

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      Gus G-T 

      14 months ago

      My experience with My boss and HR exactly , sad and shameful .

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      Freeman 

      15 months ago

      Bitter sweet moment here. It's good to learn you're not alone in dealing with similar unfortunate issues, but sad that some HR managers are wicked. After reporting a hostile situation to an HR rep involving an co-worker, I was told that the employee I reported no longer works at the company, and that my work experience should get better.

      Problem here is that the employee I reported did not leave the company, but was promoted to a new role as

      supervisor. And guess what happened next?

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      Sherly 

      15 months ago

      my cousin was grabbed by a man to go into a small room at work and said NO as she pushed away from the man grabbing her. She went to HR and they said they had no proof and brought back the guy. How the fuck does this happen?????????????

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      MFrasier 

      15 months ago

      I'm going through it also,I got terminated and the supervisor lied about his reason for terminating me.I tried to speak to human resources but they not trying to help me is there anything I can do because I'm not going to let them get away with that.

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      Wits end 

      15 months ago

      I am currently going through the exact same thing. I used to love my job and now the thought of going makes me litteraly sick to my stomach. Humiliated and laughed at every day and i cant afford to quit everyone has ostroszized me cause I wont just suck it up. They enjoy his jokes i guess it is im so alone seems like death is the only answer.

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      JGirl 

      15 months ago

      I filed a complaint for being sexually harassed and when I told HR what my boss said and did I was told I have to write it up and hand it to her or my case would be closed against the sexual harasser. I told her I'm worried that's my boss she said oh retailiation is against the law so don't worry they can't do anything. Lol, now my boss is filing a complaint against me saying I said inappropiate things at work that I never said. Oh and the lady from HR tried to intimidate me and slandered my resume right infront of my other boss. Real professional behavior.

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      pinkybaby36 

      15 months ago

      I had the same exact thing happen to me 6 years ago. I waited through the years where we got new management but same HR person. She turns a blind eye all the time. My issue now is my paychecks are always short. It takes weeks to fix. I tried to tell them and my emails get ignored. I know if I call the labor board they will somehow find a way to remove me. It's so frustrating.

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      Rosa Montenegro 

      17 months ago

      I just went to HR thinking they will be such a help but I lost HR didn't have my back at all they was for the employers. I file a Formal Complaint on Retaliation against my Manager I told my Director of my department on what had happen to me on a meeting that we had a day before I reported the issue we had a meeting with the Manager on a conference call on the phone with me and 4 other employees the topic of the meeting was about the OR department which I do work at a hospital the manager was saying that the OR was not being clean correctly which I always saw the floor tech using a disposable mops for each OR room when they really was suppose to use floor machines in each rooms. So I stared to answer to the Manager that since day one I started working there I only saw the floor tech using mops I never saw the machines in the rooms machines where always use only in the hall ways, so in his response he said to me this is not Puerto Rico and its not 1942 he knows that am Puerto Rican which the meeting had "Nothing" to do with my nationality and my parents place of birth and ancestry origin. which Puerto rico are american citizens. so the next day my Manager text my personal cell phone telling me that he was doing an investigation about a complaint against me a month ago that I was found sleeping on the job and he needed me to write a written statement which I did write it and gave it to him on the next day of returning back to work, he also stated to me that there was another complaint on a room that was not clean properly which all this was in Retaliation because I told on him. so the day I went to the HR meeting both Director & Manager lied to HR that I never went to the director and the manager said he never said that to me in the meeting, so HR claim they did there own investigation and spoke to all parties whom was at the meeting but out of 4 employees and me in total of 5 only 2 got question 1 of course was the supervisor which he had covered up for the manager & the other 1 was the floor tech which he told me himself that HR question him but he explain to HR that he didn't want no involvement because he was scare that he will be targeted in retaliation like they did me. HR said that all parties that was in the meeting said they never heard the manager saying this is not puerto rico and its not 1942. so now HR says to me lets move on and let the past be the past I look at that HR lady if looks can kill I would had buried her with my eyes I was so much in shock I couldnt believe what she was telling me but she was more worried about me sleeping in the room saying we dont tolerate employees sleeping at the job which I was never sleeping at the job thats another case to explain. can someone advise me what else can I do to catch these cover ups who swept the Retaliation complaint under the Rug.

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      becca 

      17 months ago

      This is what happened to me.my boss was talking all day about his sex life and I got tired went to hr and I couldn't prove it.now I still have to workb with the creep.and will probably lose my job

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      ppddc 

      18 months ago

      this is so true my husband just was done the way you described and he was fired about complaining of work conditions and that his boss would write nasty emails to him . he also complained because he was made to change hours for what they call a contractors but they carrier workers comp on them and they have time sheets for them .I sent as many emails as I could to my personal emails but they turned his emails off . he was hurt on a job and that's why he complained about working conditions . they said he never turned it in, he tried to do workers comp and they denied him.

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      Mikeyin 

      19 months ago

      Ok so im a union worker and opted out my med benefits since i have my own insurance. Tge problem is that even though i did this, money is still being taken out of my checks for it and ive never even recieved a medical insurance card. Theyve deducted more than 700 dollars so far. I called hr and they said i never opted out and its not in theyre computers even though i have proof i opted it out on mypath.com. which is the sote i go to for my job. Who do i turn to now?

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      Mel 

      19 months ago

      Valentine14, I am sorry that you had to experience that. Words do hurt, but don't let that person drag you down. They just have to pick on someone to build themselves up, they are no one special.

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      Valentine14 

      20 months ago

      I was mistakenly emailed by a Manager whom was emailing other Managers in the office. This Manager was making fun of me and she wrote " Is she on drugs" she was referring to me, I got a copy. I was deeply humiliated.

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      zootopia2016 

      20 months ago

      What if the one that is doing the bullying is HR?

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      IssueAtWork 

      21 months ago

      If HR dosen't back people up, who would I go to? I just started a new job. I've only been working there 2 days, with today being my second day.

      Today my boss instructed me that she has two "pet peeves". One of the pet peeves, she said, is "To go over my head to corporate for any complaints" and to "Keep that in mind". This is only my second day and I feel threatened. should I be worried? she's also not giving us our breaks, and I had one other employee tell me that we don't get breaks there. I work at a gas station. What is your advice?

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      nat 

      21 months ago

      this thing happened to me yesterday. last month i had to report 2 guys from my team who treated me like i don't know a thing. i have acquired a masters degree in technology. after reporting this to my hr and my other superiors, they put me with those guys in the same team.later, i wanted a few days off because my grandmother expired but they made me to join back earlier. after this the company threw a party, eating at the party made me sick. and it took me around 3 weeks to recover. after this the same thing happened to me which you people have described here. now no one want to work with me .i am just a trainee who joined this company 4 months ago. after joining this company they made me to relocate myself nearer to the office. as a consequence i got sick because of the water supplied in that area and wanted leaves. now i have come back to my place and travel for 5 hrs a day (to & fro). i have discussed this situation with the superiors, they still keep asking me to relocate myself. now i want to leave it but they made me sign a bond at the time of joining that if i leave before the said term i will have to pay about 2 years of my salary but if they terminate me they won't be paying me back. i don't have the bond's copy, also they didn't submit my original documents. can u suggest me something... i have got totally numb.

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      Sarah 

      21 months ago

      HELP!!!!! I have a lawsuit against a billion dollar global company because of my direct boss, head of Global HR. May we talk a bit more in detail?

      The link is to case in Riverside, CA. My email is Sarah.Lozano.HumanResources@gmail.com

      Thank you in advance.

      http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenA...

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      Jan 

      21 months ago

      I really regret contacting H.R. now. I wish I never did. I was bullied by my boss and they did nothing but try to throw me under the bus with lies that boss has invented along the way. Trust me H.R. doesn't care about their employees.

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      Martha Widra 

      21 months ago

      This happened to my son, who works at the same place that I do, but in a different department. His boss is known to be a bully, and his rants to employees are even audible in the hallway outside the shop. The HR person was sweet and smiling, but he walked out of the joint meeting thinking he was going to be fired at any moment. Sending him a link to this article helped him understand what happened and feel better about himself. Keep posting advice for people who have toxic bosses.

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      Ana 

      21 months ago

      Oh my God!!!!it is so true!!!this just happened to me...I reached out to H.R. thinking they were there for me..the employee!!!but they turned everything around and fired me for letting them know my concerns..

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      pb 

      22 months ago

      There are people on the flip side of this too who are falsly accused. Yes - there are some bad HR departments, but there are also some crap employees.

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      hil1121 

      22 months ago

      So I am struggling with this same thing and I am finding out that I am not the only person that this has happened to. What can I do to make this stop. Is there anything I can do the beat them at this game. I want to be the one that stands up to the bully.

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      Kathy 

      22 months ago

      I was forced to quit my ODSP job after 12 years of employment at a multicultural workplace. I tried to say no to a job that I was pushed to take on. I didn't want to take the job because she already had an assistant, I didn't think it was fair to offer me the work, when this person already had help. Instead of realizing this, I was offered paid work and stupidly took the assignment. It was easy enough, entering surveys on line, when it came time to be paid, she didn't want to pay me. She screamed at me the day before christmas eve for asking a question. I was a disabled employee, who was told the other department would be paying me, so went to the other department for that. I should of realized this wasn't true. I really believed in this organization and after this, lost faith in them altogether. I was badly treated after being paid and other people that were her partners there began to intimidate me when I was at work. When I spoke to human resources, she said that the person I did the assignment for 'wouldn't do that to me' after she watched it happen. I was in shock. Shortly after human resources told me that 'things wouldn't be the same for me anymore' and the executive director called me back and discouraged me from coming back to work. This after 12 years of employment, I was fired for asking to be paid for the paid work I was promised, in a workplace where 'everyone matters'. Still shocked by this and it had been some time since I left. I was able to write to the minister of labour and he visited this workplace. They don't follow their own policies, and tend to operate on the principle of giving permanent staff privileges.

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      Jenna 

      22 months ago

      I filed a sexual harassment and the dept sexual discrimination, its been almost a month and still no decision has been made and the president has gone on vacation to Italy for 2 week and says he will deal with it when he gets back. The boss is still working and is bully us and can't focus worse yet it affecting my health. what do I do? I have a seizure disorder.

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      jason 

      23 months ago

      the HR director just told me the verbal abuse i received from a supervisor was obviously made up and did not happen after letting my talk about it for 5 minutes

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      Kelly 

      23 months ago

      I am in need of help. I am an HR department of one for a small company. I recently learned a team member has inappropriate feelings for me that he has expressed to multiple members of the company. He asked one team member if she would "do me" and went on to accuse her of being in a sexual relationship with me. Even though I am happily married he has reportedly asked several team members what his chances (relationship) are with me. I have never given any indication that I am remotely interested in him. In addition, he reportedly knew where I used to live and would drive past my house to see if I was home/out. He disclosed this fact to other team members. After learning of these facts, I took the information to the owner, told him I am uncomfortable and because I am personally involved I cannot be part of any investigation and asked that he follow up with the team members that have heard these comments or are aware of the actions. He spoke to one person (the women that was asked if she would "do me") and then did no additional follow up other employees. He passed it off to the director of operations. The director of operations did not interview any team members. He decided to offer a last chance agreement to the employee in question. The employee asked who made the allegations (which was not disclosed) and then refused to sign the agreement. He still works there and the director of operations is actually wanting to promote him. I feel as though the company now looks at me as a troublemaker for bringing this to their attention. In addition, the co-worker that brought all of this to my attention is extremely nervous to come to work and has to interact with this worker on a regular basis. We are both concerned for our safety and extremely disappointed in the lack of response from ownership. I have no idea what to do next. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

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      23 months ago

      Yep. Don't trust HR. Thank you for this article.

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      Jim 

      23 months ago

      Same happened to me

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      John R Wilsdon 

      24 months ago from Superior, Arizona

      My second try at a comment.

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      John R Wilsdon 

      24 months ago from Superior, Arizona

      Be of good cheer. It is hard for the world not to notice what you are trying to express. Working people are trying to get your experience in the public domain. I do understand from personal tragedy.

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      John Wilsdon 

      24 months ago

      Here is the classic problem with the Naziesque HR department. Anybody who claims discrimination is believed. We are a nation of whiners. Complaints mirror a bell-shaped curve. We are at the far right of the curve. When enough are hurt without merit, the whiners will be vacated. Sorry, but it is just a matter of time. Hang on unfortunate soul.

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      punkman71 

      24 months ago

      I am on the flip side of this and I hope HR does the right thing. I have been wrongfully accused of harassment/bullying. The guy who turned me in has made comments in the past about how I'm "fire-proof" and how he would like to see me fired. I am not in management, but am a grunt just like him. I don't understand why he is doing this. I hope that HR makes the right determination. I have21 years of service and have never been in trouble before. I am so stressed about this. With my level of education and in my work field, I couldn't find another job that even comes close to what this job pays. I understand the need for policies against workplace harassment, but I fear for my livelihood.

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      mckenzie 

      24 months ago

      STORY OF MY LIFE ITS AS IF THEY WERE ReADING EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME!

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      Debra 

      2 years ago

      Mine is a little bit different in that it was a supervisor offer a training class. I'm a new hire. I went to her asking to be put in another class because the Dynamics in the classroom had gotten so out of hand I couldn't concentrate and couldn't learn. She insisted on knowing who's the names of the people were. I didn't want to tell her cause I knew that would not end well. She pushed it so reluctantly I gave her the names. She then said she was going to call each of them into her office and talk to them about it. I asked her not to more than once. She ignored me and it definitely went from bad to worse to the point that they said it was offensive for me to test my blood sugar which I don't even do every day. And also make me not asking me questions after I have to leave the room but yet they're asking that I get a room reserved so that I can test my blood sugar so basically if I have her have to test I have to leave the room and cannot get myself caught up when I return. It's total retaliation and it could have been avoided. So it makes me wonder if she did it on purpose and ignored me knowing that would happen so that it would be so distasteful that I would resign on my own. It really ruined my entire weekend and that was another thing she said she had to see me in front of the class and with the people she pulled in she sent him an email. And a few other things but I think the point has been made you just buy that one event and there's been more than one in our interactions. If she does just enough things right or seemingly nice that it's mixed up enough that I can't call her on it with her manager and HR.

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      Needing Help 

      2 years ago

      The scary thing about all of this is when you work in HR. I work in HR with a genuine desire to help people. I thought I was coming on to a good organization. I wasn't even LOOKING for a job, but they aggressively recruited me and made me an offer I couldn't refuse. My prior employer tried to get me to stay, even offering a salary increase and a stay bonus.

      I was stupid. My new boss has been awful to work for. She's unresponsive, I haven't been able to get ANY direction on areas she wanted me to do work in where I had no prior experience. Goals are supposed to be set within the first month. My termination date is next month and I will have been here 8 months with no goals.

      Her reason for my termination is attendance (I had a family emergency combined with illness that had me out a week in Feb, a house fire in early April that left me homeless for a night until the insurance could put me in a hotel, and 3 days after that, the grandmother that raised me died - it's now mid-May). She also cited that our communication styles don't work and I am not meeting her expectations. It's hard to meet expectations when I don't have any set for me and I can't get responses or direction.

      There were several other instances where things were just bad. During a breakout, she asked plainly, "What's wrong with your face?" Another incident involved her deciding to have a conversation with me after hours that turned to racial issues and she told me that white people don't understand the struggle of being black in America. I'm white and she's black, which I was never concerned about, but talk about inappropriate??

      During all of my struggles, I told my boss about my Major Depressive Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder, for which I've been hospitalized in the past. My reasoning was to take a day to seek help because I told her I was on the verge of ending up back in the hospital.

      I've been given 30 days to focus on a job search and documenting my procedures and I'm not sure what to do. I wrote a long letter to a Partner of the Firm explaining all of the things that have been going on and how I've been commended for my work and asked for severance and to not owe for vacation - I don't even want my job. They can have that. I also pointed out that the Major Depressive Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder are now covered by the ADA, which I doubt she knows because she doesn't stay up to date on changes.

      What else can I do??

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      whatisgoingon 

      2 years ago

      Hi Kitty,

      Before, i starting my story. People with mental illness, they get security guards and try to put you a crazy person situation and let you go that way. and let you go and claim you did something serious.

      I have the same situation. My manager put so many rules specifically for me. I reported my disability along with complaining about my manager. Next day i went work and I did not see any replies. I was surprised. And couple seconds, the page was blocked. It was saying no access, it was huge red circle and saying i was blocked. I asked other employees of my company, they had no issue. Working at client site as an employee of a contractor company.

      I knew the manager would walk soon to fire me. I went to the other building. I wrote couple lines saying i was blocked from the page and when i sent out emails from my personal email, i got blocked message back. The fax is the same story.

      There was a guy standing by and i asked his help and he scanned my note and sent to my manager, who would fire me through the client. The client is department of something. I went back to my desk couple minutes i was shaking, then tried again and i was unblocked. and the manager who turned to Zombie walked by she was super nice and talking affectionately to a crazy person, me. because of my mental illness. She did not get to fire me because of gov agency.

      The other manager came and talked to me and he was nice. I told him i did not pure complain about my manager. I explained him my disease and i told him i was not comfortable to telling that to the other manager. i told him all i needed, was little flexibility.

      He started to say maybe i did not have the skills on my resume maybe they need to check. He said maybe department of ... is not a place to work for me.

      i came home and took medical leave. My friend told me took as much medical leave as possible because they would fire me. I did not listen.

      That happened to me. They made people go to a meeting but made me come early. There was a taxi waiting and they told me i should go home because i did not look ok, which is bullshit. When i stepped into the office I saw the security guys. I wanted to my dr because i was scared. They asked my keycard and employee id.

      I escaped to the other building. My manager was yelling catch her, catch her. anyway, they took my id and keycard, but department of whatever guy heard my voice and came. The security guy started to yell, "ma'm do not touch me." I was not touching him. Anyway someone came and i explained him that after i mentioned about sick leave , they were firing me. but i was scared of what they did. I gave my key and id and left security guys behind and took that taxi home.

      Next day, they contacted me and said they will give me sick leave. A day after, i got a letter saying i had 2 days to apply for short term disability and my employment was ending by the end of the week which is end of the pay period. I called short term disability benefit they say, the HR will contact them and they will get paper filled out from my side. I do not know what they can do not give me the short term disability.

      Their reason to fire me is i did not perform well on the job and i showed up before i was healthy enough.

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      Kitty 

      2 years ago

      So what is the solution? I've been going though this with my HR for the past 2 years nothing has changed my work environment is still the same hostile! I've saved emails and documents I case the fired me I will have proof the file a lawsuit but I'm doubt they will fire me cause they know I will sue. I'm thinking about taking a stress leave since I'm not having panick attacks and the doctor put me on anti anxiety meds - please let me know what advice you can give me

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      Gene Green 

      2 years ago

      Hey Undercover lawyer, I like the article. I've been in a situation before like many describe here where good old boys club was mandatory for our department which was very detailed work.

      But the thing that was scary about it was that we had to work as a team and if the rest of the people there wanted to turn their back on you just because they didn't like you, they could and no one would hold them accountable. This had happened to someone that I worked with when the work wasn't coming together correctly. A person that my coworker had to rely on for the work to be finished, would fire back saying that the work wasn't right and would make himself unavailable after each issue was corrected. After my coworker left the company that person turned their habits to me. I would get blamed for the other person stalling the process even when there was clear documentation that they were preventing the work from getting out. My boss would do nothing and even blame me for not confronting the guy. I wasn't management, so it wasn't up to me to get the guy to do his job. I hear someone say once, that if you get mad at work, it's no one else's fault you're mad but yourself. Doesn't matter if the person you're mad at is always late, or you don't like something else about them,

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      Lynn 

      2 years ago

      Boy this is my story. Going back and forth about HR.... Quitting, waiting. I will file a grievance to the EEOC. I was advised by a lawyer to do this. But where are the lawyers that can help? Your article is perfect.

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      kimperry6722@gmail.com 

      3 years ago

      I was recently "let go", for reasons that they say i violated the attendance policy. If that was the case, i would have been let go a lot sooner. My fear at my job was i knew my cell lead and some senior employees were jealous because i sprang quikly from their hold and started to train in another area. Therefore, a week and a half after my successful review from.my supervisor(who just left to a different position), I was let go. Wish i had known how to protect myself.

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      Stephen J Parkin 

      3 years ago from Pine Grove, Nova Scotia, Canada

      Staples allows its managers to use zero tolerance procedures and staff can not find out who filed the complaint. I was fired by them in Bridgewater Nova Scotia for touching staff. I was not allowed to know who filed the complaints and so could not defend myself.

      The local lawyer confirmed that this type of incident is common place. The truth is as an IT graduate I was better qualified to be the stores technology supervisor than the guy who was given the job. It turns out that the store Manager was sleeping with the person she gave the job to.

      The brother of that person also worked for the store in the same department. Both of these things were sack able offenses by the Manager. We found out later about this when the technology supervisor was boasting to my wife and I about his affair.

      You are right HT will not help you in these cases. Staples did fire the Manager however on the same day! as they fired me. It turns out one of the female employees complained about the Manager to HR using an anonymous reporting the company has. In this case she got what she deserved.

      HR did reveal to me that I had been reported by both sexes. The Manager and boyfriend spring to my mind. The reason? If she were fired I was likely to be in line to manage the store. If this happened I would get access to all of her files and the true picture of all her misdeeds including why she appointed him and not me to the supervisors job. I applied for and had been given the job of third key (effectively being third in line after the Manager and her deputy).

      I have a hub on work place bullying too so I wish you well in the work you are doing. Thank God there are people like you trying to correct these issues.

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      Jordyn 

      3 years ago

      On October 4th, a coworker threatened my life. I immediately filed a report with HR the following Monday (the incident occurred on a Saturday) and this is the sad conclusion, after being reassured, smiled at, told their investigation was going very well and thoroughly, etc.:

      After a year at S*****s, my duties have come to a close. HR called in and I was called into the office with my GM present to talk to the HR rep. What happened next can only be described as an ambush. They undermined everything I had ever said anywhere. It was a beautifully orchestrated, thought out character assassination. That lady deserves a raise. Truly going above and beyond in terms of protecting S*****s' interests. She stopped just short of directly calling me a liar, carefully wording everything to as to avoid slander while making me feel like I was the person in the wrong. I confronted her with this character assassination and she replied, "What is it that I'm saying that is untrue? I'm only speaking facts." Which was true. She let me come to the conclusions about what she was saying on her own. Bravo. Well done. You win. I quit.

      Also, something I feared would happen, my manager altered his statement after I submitted mine (I submitted mine during the weekend, when the report was to be filed with HR on Monday, which in retrospect was a dumb move) to make me look as if I was presenting the situation in some other light. In his statement that I saw before I submitted mine, he said he saw the other employee become visibly upset and then he pulled him aside. The HR rep said he said that the employee became "visibly confused," and then used that detail to undermine my entire statement. Again, bravo, ladies and gents. You really did your jobs well. Long live capitalism.

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      Aleathia 

      3 years ago

      I like the statement in the video, "Please don't speak to me that way. I'm professional and cordial to you and I expect the same in return." That would have saved me being transferred due to my become negative due to the "Golden Girl and her cronie's tactics in the workplace. Guess I got played. Anyway, that is a great statement to use when someone attempts to undermine and belittle you.

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      4 years ago

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      Temogrealge 

      5 years ago

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      Senora Melva 

      5 years ago

      Excellent and so true! Unions also work hand-in-hand with the company so there is no remedy to a worker's situation unless s/he quits.

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      jimmylesaint 

      6 years ago from Metropolis of Life

      HR are there to help you with anything outside of work, an injury, a bereavement or with inanimate objects such as the ergonomics of your chair etc. When you start complaining about your colleagues, especially SENIOR colleagues then beware--make sure you have evidence whether it is a diary of events, other colleagues statements or even, my favourite;) camera and mic.

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      Vegas Elias 

      6 years ago from Mumbai

      A very realistic situation. Very true, employees must realize that H.R. is being paid by the management and should be expected to favor them instead of favoring disgruntled employees.

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      ressan 

      6 years ago

      That was a great blog and should be assigned reading for every employee.

      But Damn! Damn! Damn! I wish I had read this before.

      Oh man, this is right on the spot. My experience was even worse. Without going through long details, short of it was that after contacting HR about my Manager's LIES and deliberate undermining my work; a meeting was arranged between an HR Rep, my manager and myself.

      Before the meetings I wrote down my thoughts and key points, and documented evidence that what my boss had written about me were wrong and lies. Thinking that, after this meeting my Manager will think twice before...

      At any rate, in the meetin HR person pulled out a some papers, and set the agenda. What was that agenda? That agenda was list of things that I had to do/change to meet the required job standard.

      She (HR person) did not even pretend to be mediating or addressing my concern. In fact I was not to discuss or dispute any thing about my boss's behavior and write ups. Instead I was put on a program to improve my job performance and was to be reviewed by HR and my Manager every 30 days. I was stunned.

      Needles to say I started to look for another job and found one soon after.

      Sweetest part was that I found and accepted the new job offer juts a few days before I had to have my 30 day review with HR and my Manager. Went to the meeting and told the HR lady that this time I will set the agenda, and the agenda is whether or not what my manager wrote were false accusations and is he willing to back them up.

      She started to ...but I cut her off and told her, we can settle it here, or I can get a lawyer! She threatened that it would cost me my job, and I told her, so be it.

      Boy did her demeanor change! Which made me dislike them even more.

      Moral of the story, DO NOT TRUST THE HR! Don't buy into company BS about getting help from HR or other such outfits.

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      yellowninja 

      6 years ago

      Hello Undercover Lawyer,

      I need your assistance with a battle I am fighting with my previous employer over discrimination and then retaliation. How can I contact you on a more personal basis?

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      abusedemployee 

      6 years ago

      What can I do if the HR department and all the upper management are in it together? The problems include unequal treatment of employees, harassment, verbal abuse, bullying, the list goes on. It isn't only myself being treated poorly, either. My coworker and I have both gone to HR to try to resolve these issues, it only made things worse. They've turned it all around on us and made things more difficult. We have no support from any of the management staff. Please help.

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      beentheredonethat 

      6 years ago

      I agree with so many of the posters here. I had a very similar situation with a Supervisor about 2 years ago. HR acted sympathetic towards me, but did nothing about the Supervisor in question. The Supervisor created a very hostile work environment for me and when I mentioned to the HR Superintendent (in confidence) that I felt like quitting because of it. She must have been chomping at the bit for a way to get rid of me because she actually emailed me a job posting from an industry similar to mine! At the time I thought she was being nice, but now I realize she was trying to get me out to avoid legal action on my part.

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      gyanibaba 

      6 years ago

      Hi Undercover Lawyer,

      This was a very nice and educational forum.

      I have an issue raised with the HR of my company and after reading all the comments here I am not sure if I have done the right thing by going to the HR.

      My story goes like this, I am employed in a company with a designation "XYZ" at a particular band level say 1.2 and now the company is taken over by another company and there was a title change done for everyone and my new designation is "ABC" but the band level is now decreased to 1.1. When I took this matter up the HR team says that I was always at band 1.1 and not 1.2. But I have a document that proves that my band was 1.1. If someone can guide me how take this further it will be of great help.

      Thank you.

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      Busymum of 2boys 

      6 years ago

      I read through your post and cringe!!

      I am a HR Manager in a large company, not univeristy trained spent a long time being a Manager and I have really found it extremely hard to take the Employee outta the girl. I listen to all the staffs issues when they come and see me, I try and put things right where I am able. I have realised that his role is very frustrating as you get the view from CEO, Owners that you have to dupe, sneak, backstab, and undermine people to do your job and this goes completely against my ethos. Perhaps why I won't last long in this sort of job.... I care too much. Like I said can't take the employee outta the girl.

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      KittyBooCat 

      6 years ago from Mid-Atlantic

      I'm really surprised by many of the comments here. This article was dead-on in my situation, which is why I've consulted with a lawyer. HR did nothing to help me in everything I went through, and many others are still going through. There reaches a point where you can't just "suck it up," like Jackblack seems to think is possible. I'm very thick skinned, but the two women in our situation have hurt numerous people, and HR does nothing about any of the complaints they've received.

      I need to take this further, but I'm not sure of the best next steps, and would love some advice here. I have lots of documentation, and have been told I should have a good case, I just don't know the best route to take next. Advice would be welcome.

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      Virtuoso 

      6 years ago

      plumnut

      can you please, share your email id.

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      Virtuoso 

      6 years ago

      First of all HR takes care of these kinds of issue with sensivity, if your boss is harrasing you and HR assistant is doing nothing, in this case you should have a kind of proof while your boss is harrasing you such ( record his speech or something like this) and still if it was not possible write to HR and CC Top management or directly top management should be contacted

      sometimes HR is helpless, because HR doesn't have the authoridy to take action too.... so better is labor low of your country and complete knowledge of it is required

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      Antares1 

      6 years ago

      This article is dead on. Do not trust H.R. assistance for harassment and especially if you are experiencing a hostile work environment. This very article has been my story 3 times. Its funny what time does to you. With my story time forgave and then you forget,( but your file remains dont forget) and then the need for H.R. comes around again and you think, ok, I have got it under control this time, because now your H.R. experienced and you wont let anything happen like the last visit. You prepare, get all your docs in order, and wham, another write up. Talk to a labor attorney and in the mean time, Document Document Document everything. Day, time,send emails carefully (best document proof ever) With my boss, I have been harassed, bullied, lied to, manipulated, deceived, threatened, and the list goes on and on.My job pays so well and I cant afford to give it up. Another write up and I am gone. I will never go to H.R. again no matter how bad. So now I spend hours researching and keeping up to date with the law as best as I can with what is available to me. I am so glad I found this site and the undercover lawyer. Any information is gold in today's time.

      To HR Professional --- 'witnesses available to help your case"?? are you serious? no one is going to help you when your job is on the line. Would you testify to a horrible misdoing if it meant loosing your job? house? car? unable to feed your family? I think not. There is no bonus for this. hello?

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      La Renard 

      6 years ago

      I'd recommend contacting your union they should be well versed in employment law and should be able to assist you in dealing with this, not alone.

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      Zalmay 

      6 years ago

      KoisKreations

      i am an HR

      in this case you should have informed your line manager and top management of your organization.

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      malissa 

      6 years ago

      i endured 2 years of hell at my job and now i no longer have the job. i need to get some type of advice for what they did to me, because i was fired in retaliation because i spoke up for myself.

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      plumnut 

      6 years ago

      I am also saddened to read all the negative experiences people have had with HR professionals. As an Employee Relations consultant who is responsible for receiving and handling complaints, I can tell you that not ALL of us are uncaring and protect the company. If my director told me I had to conduct myself in that way I would quit! I'm viewed as very "pro-employee" in my organization and have built many trusting relationships with employees in my organization. But I am fair enough to also have respect from supervisors. And by the way, when someone is sharing a stressful concern with me, I do not smile because it seems insensitive to do so. We take immediate and meaningful action as soon as we learn that an employee is being harassed, including moving the employee to a different location when possible and having the employee report to a different person. (We are large enough to have those options, fortunately.)Bullying is difficult to deal with since it often involves just people being "mean" to each other without relating to any of the federally protected classes. Unless your organization has a specific anti-bullying policy (which I hope will be the trend in the near future) your HR rep might not have a defined process to follow and might not know what to tell you. There is a great website for people who are being bullied - www.kickbully.com. Check it out. When I hear about a bullying situation I try to give the bullied person resources to manage the bully in a respectful and positive way, so as not to escalate the situation. If I hear mutliple complaints about a bully I do some fact-finding and submit a report to a high-level official. My organization takes this very seriously. For the gentleman above, Richard, if you are 71 you certainly are protected against age discrimination if your employer has more than 15 employees. If they have made any derogatory comments to you that relate to your age you should document them and consider filing a complaint with the EEOC if you do not trust your HR office to handle your complaint appropriately. Good luck and hang in there!

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      Richard 

      6 years ago

      Being bullied out of your job when you are 71 years old and still have plenty of life and skill left, is not an easy or fun thing. That is what's happening to me. I was just given a reprimand letter, which is based on comment that I didn't make, and I am working on a rebuttal letter. Any advice will be helpful!

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      A Boss 

      6 years ago

      What a sad article. Just about as sad as the employee who calls in sick repeatedly and when they do come to work, won't do their job. And how dare the boss talk to the employee about the poor performance or excessive absenteeism. That is harassment! Let's complain and get the boss fired. And then continue taking their paid sick days and not do their job. Guess what low life abusers - you're going to get caught.

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      Mr P 

      6 years ago

      Undercover lawyer,

      Im so glad I found this site.

      Im happy that im not alone. Im glad I didn't go buy a 12pack to forget about my shit life working around pure scum.

      Great write up.

      ps. HR employees, dont take it personally.. unless you deserve it, then the worst is yet to come :)

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