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How To Get Your Social Security Disability Approved Fast

Updated on August 8, 2016

Note: If you're trying to scam the government and get Social Security Disability with a false claim of an injury, illness, or condition, read no further. This article is intended to help people who are legitimately unable to work a full-time job because of a physical, emotional, or mental condition.

You’ve probably heard all the horror stories about how hard it is to get approved for Social Security Disability, also known as SSDI. Many people who claim to have extremely debilitating illnesses and conditions take years to get approved, and some never get approved. Some have to resort to hiring a disability lawyer to finally get their Social Security Disability Income, and of course they have to share their award with their attorney.

On the other hand, you hear cases in which people claiming dubious illnesses breeze right through the process and get their claims approved quickly—some of which should never have been approved at all.

I was lucky to get my Social Security Disability case approved very quickly. Some people, however, aren't so fortunate. I read everything I could get my hands on about the process, and I talked to numerous people who had gone through it. I learned what to do and what to avoid doing, and I'm sharing it with you here.

The problem is that to the Social Security Administration, you’re just a number. These employees are overworked and underpaid and deal with all sorts of job-related stress. I’m not trying to sound callous, but it’s a fact. These workers deal with thousands of cases every week. Some applicants have legitimate cases, and some don’t. You have to convince Social Security that you honestly cannot work any longer.

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You can start online, but to succeed in your SSDI application, keep a file of documents about your disability.
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How do you do this? First of all, make sure everything is documented – all the medications you’ve been taking, all your doctor visits, all your trips to the emergency room, all your visits to the chiropractor, all your visits to the massage therapist, all your visits to any sort of counseling, and all your visits to rehab or physical therapy. When any of these health care professionals assess your condition, ask for their findings in writing. Get copies of everything and keep them all together, in a safe place.

It’s also important to find a doctor who believes in you. If you have a condition like fibromyalgia, for example, you can’t prove it with a blood test, an x-ray, or an MRI. Even though Social Security Disability does award payment for such conditions, they’re harder to prove. It’s easier to prove if you’ve been seeing a doctor who specializes in your condition.

When you go to a doctor’s appointment, ask the doctor to document any findings he makes. He might say your condition is debilitating, but if he doesn't write down what he says, it's like he never said it. Many doctors will also write a letter or a narrative for Social Security explaining why you can no longer work a regular job. You will probably have to pay extra for this, but it’s definitely worth the price.

Social Security Disability has “listing level impairments” that they go by. Supposedly, if you have one of these and can prove it, you’re automatically approved. But you don’t have to have one of these exact conditions or illnesses to get approved for Social Security Disability; you might have a combination of lesser impairments that will get you approved. That’s why it’s so important to list, document, and keep up with all your physical, mental, and emotional conditions.

I had terrible pain, tingling, and numbness in my neck that ran down my left arm. I had the same thing in my lower back than ran down my right leg. After I had an MRI of my neck, it showed bulging discs, but the radiologist reading the report said the bulging was very mild. I knew this would not help me get SSDI. I requested the discs from the MRI and took them to a doctor who specializes in back problems, and he went over the MRI with me, frame by frame. He pointed out all the nerve damage shown. When I asked him why the radiologist had said the problem was not severe, he explained that many radiologists are not experts in nerve damage or in back problems. That’s why you have to be proactive!

If you really are disabled, and one doctor says you aren't, get a second opinion. I actually got several opinions, and all the rest agreed with me and disagreed with that first radiologist. Don’t give up! As it turned out, I probably wouldn’t have needed those other opinions, anyway. When I had the MRI of my lower back, there was no disputing the damage there. And I also discovered I had severe carpal tunnel in both hands and no cartilage in my right knee. As a result of my CTS, I have to get my daughter to do almost all of my typing for me.

Make an Honest Case

I think one reason my SSDI was approved so quickly was that I was honest on my questionnaire. I told them I didn’t have terrible pain every day, but I had it often enough to prevent me from working a full-time job. There are probably days now that I could work for a few hours, but there’s no way I could work eight hours a day, five days a week. And Social Security is all or nothing: if you can work, but the number of hours you’re able to work is less than forty a week, they consider you disabled.

Here's a catch, however: to get approved for SSDI, you have to be deemed unable to work any job, not just the job you've had in the past. In other words, if you have a job that requires heavy lifting, and you can't perform those duties any longer, Social Security will decide whether or not you have the skills necessary to work a desk job. If you do, you won't be approved for SSDI.

In my quest to get approved for Social Security Disability, I also wrote them a letter explaining how much I loved my job. I’d had the same job as a teacher for almost 20 years. I explained that if I could continue to work, I would. I didn’t just wake up one day and decide that I didn’t want to work any longer. I also had a letter from my former principal. He explained how much I enjoyed teaching and how many awards I had earned. I think that served as evidence that I was a dedicated employee who really did like her job.

My age also helped me. If you’re 50 or over, SSDI is easier to get. If you’re over 60, it’s even easier to get. Generally speaking, the younger you are, the harder it is to get approved for Social Security Disability.

If you truly are not able to work any longer, do everything you can to make your case stronger. Even things that you don’t consider important can help your case. These might include letters from friends, employers, co-workers, and family members. I also kept a daily journal that described my symptoms on that specific day.

If You Are Approved, You'll Get Paid

Once you get approved for SSDI, you'll get a big check that includes back payments. After that, you'll get a monthly check on a specified day. I chose to have mine directly deposited into my bank account so that I don't have to depend on the postal service. I've never had a late payment - I know that money will be there on the fourth Wednesday of every month.

If You Are Refused, File an Appeal

With SSDI, there are several levels of appeals. Almost everyone gets turned down on the initial application, and many are refused the second time. If you're turned down, go through with the Social Security appeal process. If you continue to get turned down after several appeals, that’s when you need to hire a disability lawyer. Just make sure you hire a disability attorney who specializes in Social Security Disability claims. These attorneys are experts, and they know how to deal with the agency. If you've done all you can do, seek expert legal help. The disability lawyer will get a chunk of your award, but that's sure better than ending up with nothing. Don't let the Social Security appeal process discourage you!

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      Susan Reid 7 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

      Excellent information. I know there are a lot of people who are desperate for this inside scoop. Thanks for providing it. MM

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      Allsup 7 years ago from Belleville, IL

      Great advice about the hoops to jump through to get Social Security Disability from someone who has "been there." (I hope you're doing much better with your neck pain.). Especially valuable to anyone applying for SSDI is your advice to document everything to validate your claim (e.g., medications, doctor visits, trips to the emergency room and rehab or physical therapy). Thanks for sharing your first-hand experience so others can benefit.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Thanks for reading, pals! I hope this hub helps people who can no longer work.

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      Georzetta Ratcliffe 7 years ago from Pennsylvania

      I am appealing a decision made by Social Security but the problem I'm having is that they keep losing my documentation. I am getting ready to submit papers for the third time. I'm on my fourth caseworker.

      Would you have a recommendation on how to "help" Social Security keep track of their paperwork? Apparently having the name of the caseworker does no good because they keep telling me they Have never seen the paperwork when I handed it to the caseworker in person.

      Do you know of any methods to use to prove I did my part?

      Thanks.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Fax the copies to them and save the fax receipt. You'll have proof that you faxed it and when it was faxed. You can also send it registered mail. Then the person who received it will have to sign for it. Good luck!

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      Marc Woodard 7 years ago from Portland, Oregon

      You are right on getting numberous opinions on this one. I have 6 specialists that agree that my fibromyalgia was the result of multiple service connected injuries. With that being said, I'd like to leave you my story. And thanks for your contribution with regard to this topic.

      I was diagnosed after years of bodily injuries from military training.

      I'm 1 in 10 men out of every woman that have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I'm a rarity since this is not common in men. I was diagnosed about 2 months ago after experiencing all tendor points since 2004. I could never figure out why my body began to hurt everyday, every joint for without reason. This was so frustrating. If it wasn't for my own research through the years and medical self-advocating to rule out everything from Parkinsons, lupus, cancer, MS, immune, nervous, etc., any less of a person may have just given up where the depression left them in worse shape. Fortunately I was to persistent for that.

      My fibro came about per "doc's" characterizations of fibro secondary to military injuries while serving 22 years in two branches of service. I like to refer to this as massive internal damage that has cooked my pain receptors and rerouted super sensitivity back to my brain. Regardless my CNS with regard to pain tolerance is toast.

      In my case, any form of anti-depressant for pain drug really messes up my head. I can't take them. So instead, I boost brain chems through daily walking. This helps alot. However, when I quite moving... Let the pain train begin.

      I'm on a pain management program that does not include anti-depressants. In my opinion, those with previous neck injuries, or whole body injuries... Don't bank on anti-depressants wholly. If you feel crummy using them, get off of them! Find something else!

      I've tried about everything the doc's recommended to include every specialist in the book, natural cures, etc., I call "poppycock" for those that had an amazing cure benefit... Most likely they experienced an acute characteristic fibro experience that was not pure fibro! True fibromyalgia is very difficult to diagnos.

      I have to admit a rheumatologist-immune specialist is the closest to determining whether you have it or not and hold medical opinion weight over all other doc specialists, especially a primary physician.

      The best thing one can do is take up a walking program, stretching, swimming, light weight reps to isolate and work indirectly around heavy pain trigger point(s) which vary in intensity on any one day. Oh yah, don't forget nutrition, but I won't go into this. This is my specialty to include exercise and pain management.

      If you get a chance I'd appreciate you visiting my profile and a follow if you like my topics. I'm now following you. I think we have some similar interests.

      You are correct, there is no cure, there is no known "exact" cause. Although science is working to fund studies around, previous injuries patients, depression, immune, IBS & most likely a whole aray of cause/origin possibilities.

      I think those that try to profit off this selling snake oil should be ashammed of themselves. Because those that say their fibro diagnosed... And magically it disappears after using supplements, natural cures, etc., I'm highly skeptical of their intentions and for that matter... Who diagnosed them with Fibro? A primary physician. If so, that does not hold a whole lot of weight because any doc can state in the medical transcripts (characteristic of fibromyalgia... or like).

      Remember as Hobee made a similar statement, if applying for SSDI have all your doc's concur they are in agreeance on this diagnosis. This makes your case much stronger.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Nice to meet you, Woodie! Sorry for all the pain you're experiencing, and thanks for sharing your story. I'll go check out your hubs now!

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      sjones 7 years ago

      Been there, done that!

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      steve 7 years ago

      I was recently denied on my SSDI claim and need to have a hearing.

      If anyway possible can this be expedited ASAP where I’m now homeless ,living in my car and uninsured .

      4 yrs ago I had a beautiful home “my 3rd one”, a Jaguar, truck, 2 Jensen’s, Boat all paid for. I had 60k in the bank and a great job.

      I have always worked and done what’s right.

      Now 4yrs after I was forced to stop working do to pain from removing my pelvis I have nothing.

      My whole life has been erased and I can’t even support my 8 yr old daughter who is my only concern at this point.

      I’m depressed all the time and have been seriously considering survivor benefits to secure her future.

      If a soldier throws himself on a bomb saving his fellows in arms it is considered a selfless and courageous act.

      The same is for a father who’s only resort to secure his child to me is of equal stature.

      I’ve had all I can take and nothing else to lose or give.

      It seems that those who never do the right thing and never own anything have no problem getting some shrink to say they are Bipolar or manic depressive when reality is the drug addicts and drunks are still getting in while those who try there whole life to do right lose there life’s. It’s sad and wrong

      Sincerely Steven M Sargent 014-60-5091

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Sjones. Thanks for reading!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Steve, I'm so sorry to learn of your predicament. Don't give up! If you're turned down at this appeal, file another. If you need a lawyer, get one. You won't have to pay unless you win. Best of luck and God bless.

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      Briana M 7 years ago

      I just want to thank you so much for the information you provided. I am awaiting a decision on my reconsideration (1st one) and have been trying to prepare myself for another denial. I am 28 years old and I have 2 little boys ages 7 and 2. I am Bi-Polar w/anxiety and I've recently been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Cervial Dystonia. Both of those things mean that I am in pain everyday. I might have a couple hours a day where I feel a little better but, never a day that I don't hurt somewhere. Up to this point I have not kept record of anything. I see now that is a mistake. Starting today I am going to write everything down. I am going to request my records from every doctor, every emergency room, urgent care, ever psychiatric hospital, behavioral health agency, pharmacy, everything that has to do with my medical history. I understand now how important it is if I want to be approved for benefits for myself and my children. So thank you again for opening my eyes and giving me some hope.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      I am so glad my article helped! Make sure you have records of your meds, too, and how they affect you. Do they make you dizzy, sleepy, nauseous, etc. I just said a prayer for you!

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      Frank 7 years ago from Montana

      My brother is on ssdi and has to live with me as his monthly salary is a whopping $920

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      It's crazy, Firead! Guess it's better than nothing, though...

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      sheila b. 7 years ago

      I'm about to begin this process, so this article of yours is very helpful, will probably save me hours and hours of time by keeping records immediately. So thanks! Got your comment about the challah bread recipe - glad your friend liked it. It truly is my very favorite.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Hope the tips help, Sheila! Best of luck!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, sorry about your dilemma. Get a good social security lawyer or disability attorney to help!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Hired a Social Security attorney. He was a former Social Security Judge. He seems confident but no attorney can guarantee any case. My aggravation is July will be three years and my condition today is far worse than when I applied. It's make me sad when I hear of the thousands of Americans who suffer because its the way the system is. I'm pround to be an American and thankful to live he, I just feel betrayed by our government. Well thanks for your response, the only thing I can do is fight. They denied because they determined I'm young enough to do something else and my dying hip and femur has not collapsed so after having multi level anterior and posterior spinal fusion five weeks ago I have Nothing but time.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, I feel confident you'll get approved, and then you'll get a big check! I'll say a prayer! Let me know the outcome.

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Thanks for your possitive encouragement and prayer. I could use all the help I can get at this point. I just wish I knew about Social Security not being a friend when I began this. Thank you.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      I said a prayer, Bogey! Best of luck to you, my friend!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Well I received my SSD hearing date. It was for June 9 th, however as soon as I wrote down the date my attorney called me to inform me the judge has postponed my case until August 19, and there is nothing I can do. Unbelievable. Now three more months of hell.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Oh, Bogey, I'm so sorry! Wishing you good luck!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Just wanted to give you a laugh concerning our social security and it's system of not approving cases. My attorney finally received their file on me. In the file it states my case was approved, than sent to Atlanta and denied by a doctor who has never even seen me. In addition, I have a spinal condition and the doctor social security sent me to is a Pediatrics doctor. I reviewed her report and she put down at least 10-12, test results concerning her examination of me that never took place. I was two months post hip surgery non weight bearing with a walker and she claims she conducted tests that would have snapped my femur and hip. I can't believe that the doctor would lie and she has no education when it comes to spinal injuries she deals with children, I'm 43. It gets more unreal every day. Now I see why so many people are against the government running our medical system. I have to say I was for it but now I'm not to sure I want some paper pusher telling my Neurologist what is best for me from five states away. Scary!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, thanks for sharing this with me! I'm really not surprised. It sure makes a case against government-run health care, huh??

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      It is scary. Here were faced with medical benefits for all but at what price. For the past year I have over heard several of my doctors bad mouthing government run medical programs. I'm now understandind why now. Why is something so good for so many so difficult to pass. Canada and Spain have government run medical programs that we should model. Medication that we pay hundreds of dollars they get for five dollars and it's the same medication that CVS sells. We are a the worlds super power, it's time to act like one. If our founding fathers were here today they would slap every democrat and republican, than remind them they are Americans first. Oh well, that's my opinion for the day. God bless America and everyone who fights for our freedoms.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      You are so right, Bogey! I'm sick of the bickering and partisanship!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Not sure what state your from but in Florida our Govenor just left the Republican party and became an independent. He got sick I going along with issues because it was what his party wanted. Way to go Charlie Crist!!!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      I'm in GA, so I'm keeping up with Charlie!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Is it peach season. I had GA. Peaches in the 1990's, and since then I can't eat parches in our stores in Miami. They taste like wax after eating a GA. peach. If it is, enjoy some for me.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, the peaches aren't ready yet, but when they are, I'll remember you when the sweet juice runs down my chin! lol

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Received a copy of my Neuologist's sworn statement. He slammed both doctors from social security and gave step by step detailed explanations of my condition and why I'm disabled using their definition. He also explained that my condition is not going to improve it's only getting worse. He backed it up with 23 years of experience and medical reports, mri's, x-rays, cat scans and several spinal procedures conducted over the past 2 1/2 years. Finally an honest doctor on my side. He even commented how can a doctor evaluate someone without seeing him. Maybe my judge will feel the same. We will see, August 19, is my new hearing date.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, that's wonderful! I've been thinking about you! Let me know!

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      Silver Poet 7 years ago from the computer of a midwestern American writer

      Excellent info. Thanks for explaining this. Hope you get some rest!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Thanks, Silver. I am!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      It's me again. I was reviewing your case and our conditions are so similar. I have a condition in my neck known as thorasic outlet syndrom. It causes my left arm to go numb. I had to have surgery on my lumbar at three levels and I suffer from avascular nrecrosis in my left hip which also required surgery and will require at least two to three more surgeries depending on how long I live. In addition, because of my conditions I have worn all the cartilage in my left knee. I have had six injections in that knee and will begin a new series next month. I had seven epidulal steroid injections in a hospital. Not to metion months of physical therapy. Also I was one month shy of twenty years working as a police sergeant. I was also approved, than my case was sent to Ga than denied. I know it's because my age. I was 41 years old when this started, I have any army of doctors who all agreed that I'm totally and permantly disabled and the police department required real doctors to approve me and they did for medical reasons but social security denies hoping you will give up. Three years will pass before my hearing date. I have and had files of medical documantation plus the same job for my entire adult life. But if your under 50, they don't care. I have two orthopaedic doctors, two pain management doctors one neurologist and two spinal surgeons. It really does not matter how much proof you have if your under 50 and live in Florida and worked prior to being injured. I hate to say it, but your better off doing nothing your entire adult life. Today I would have less than two years to full retirement from our state retirement plan. What fool would walk away with full benefits for life if they weren't really injured. Almost for got, I also have a file of MRI reports, cat scans and letters from all my doctors. So If your under 50 get an attorney and be ready to fight for a long time. I'm lucky I receive LTD and a portion of my retirement under our medical disablity act otherwise I would be living on the street. God bless America and everyone who fights for us.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, that's messed up! I'm still hoping and praying for a favorable outcome for you. Remember to let me know!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      From my research only 7 percent get approved at the first level and 14 percent at the reconsideration level. Another 50 percent make it at the appeal level. So 71 percent get approved, it's just a shame that the vast majority go through hell to get what the need. Assistance form our government. Also many of the documents from your doctors and hospitals cost you money to get copies of. Social security will not get all your records because of this extra cost to them so their file is incomplete. I only now know this because I'm getting ready for my hearing and have seen their half ass file and found out that they cut corners to save mone at your

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      I cut myself off. But my point is if you send them copies at your cost they claim they didn't receive it and if you can't afford the hundreds of dollars to get your records don't count on social security to pay for them. My best advise is do not trust them. The only time you get a fair chace is at your hearing. Good luck.

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      Audrey Kirchner 7 years ago from Central Oregon

      I'm thinking I may have my Patrick try disability rather than handicapped land....great info, Spanky!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, so true! You definitely have to look out for your own interests.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Thanks, Bucky!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Just wanted to let you know people read hubpages to take advatage of people like us. I received an e-mail from a woman who was more interested in a relationship than my intentions. Fighting social security. Let all your readers know that some people are reading web sites like this, looking for easy pray or people in a position to coming into money. I may be disabled but I still have common sense. When a woman writes me and starts off telling me she is single, never been married and has no children a big red flag should pop up. I just wrote her back and explained, I'm only looking for advise to fight social security not a relationship. I also explained I'm disabled and I have a wife and children. She never wrote me again. So to all beware. People will try to take advatage of anyone.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, I hadn't thought of that! Good tip!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Does anyone know if a sworn statement taken by your attorney at you doctor's office is better than having your doctor fill out a functional risidual capability form. My attorney had my doctor give a sworn disposition going over my file while explaining why my condition makes me diabled in addition to, blasting the doctor who never saw me giving a medical opinion of my condition even stating I was going to improve. About a year later I had a second surgery. My doctor went over my codition detail by detail and had exam notes, MRI reports, CAT Scans and several other procedures to support his expert medical diagnosis. By the way he is a Nuroligist board certified since 1983. According to the statement I met the social security's own definition under 1.03 and 1.04 dealing with major weight bearing joints and spinal injuries. Yet they stll make you go through this. It's no wonder people walk into court houses and shoot everyone in site. I totally diagree with that but I understand why now. They make you beg, suffer and just when your about to have your case heard it's postponed. Funny my case was postponed the first week of summer. I guess vacation with the kids is more important than hear disabled people beg for benefits. Now I can add anger and depression to my list of issues. Well that's my comment for today. It's amazing that it has been over three years to probably get screwed again because the more I read about social security the more I learn that they don't care if you disabled they only care about you age and how to get rid of your case. My grandfather died waiting for social security in 1976, nothing has changed.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, I hate that they're giving you the run around. Is your hearing still in August??

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      For now. August 19. It's just amazing the judge can decide to go on vacation and your case can be delayed an extra three months. I understand the judge is untitled to some time off but my case should have been the first case up when the judge returns. Not here, you go to the end of the case list and there is nothing you can do. Just like my entire file, I'm approved at the first level than some one reviews my file and I'm not only denied but put into a higher level of ability. Diabled from doing sedentary work, than someone who has never seen me says my condition will most likely improve and he denies me. On top of that he said I can do light level work performing all postural functions. He disagreed with their own doctor and mine based on his opinion. Wow! I don't think their doctor even look a medical evidence, they just feel they are gods and we are at their mercy. The sad thing is it's true. My only hope it the judge in my case believing my doctors reports and statements along with all the piles of medical evidence. If this was a homicide case the evidence would convict instantly. Oh well, wish me luck I'm going to need it. Even though I have a good attornery a great team of doctors who all specialize in their fields and have completely shot down the social security doctor's evaluation with documentation, evaluations and surgeries. If the judge is fair I should be ok. Wish me luck, lord know I need some.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Oh, Bogey, I'm wishing you luck and saying prayers! Let me know!

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      snowflake4ya 7 years ago

      I just got approved for social security, im 28 and i have MS. i was wondering how much i would be getting for backpay from 2-1-09 to now.... or what my amount will be each month, and does my 3yr old son get a check too? im new to this and know nothing.... thanks guys!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Your son should get a check. Your monthly check depends on how much you paid in. You will get back pay for the months since you were determined disabled, except for the first 5. Good luck!

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      Bogey 99 7 years ago

      If snowflake4ya has an attorney they can break down her payments based on her previous yearly statements. The statement they send out every year, usuall in July. I'm glad someone got what they deserve.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, thanks for the info for snowflake!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Snowflake4ya is lucky, not being sick buy getting approved so young. Social Security doesn't like to approve anyone under 50. I advise her to keep seeing her doctors at least thre times a year and keep a file of everything. I'm sure Social Security is going to constantly review her for a long time. My father in law lost his leg and had his arm fused for life plus he had Huntingtons disease. Every other year we had to prove he was still disabled. Finally I got angry with Social Security and wrote them a letter explaining humans arms and legs don't grow back and his mental disease eventually killed him. So I'm happy for snow flakes victory, don't stop keeping ALL your records. By a safe, make copies protect yourself. My LTD questions me every three months for records. Best wishes.

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      Granny's House 7 years ago from Older and Hopefully Wiser Time

      Great information habee. I am sure this will help a lot of people.

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Well my luck might be getting better. I told you in the beginning that my attorney was a social security judge for three years before going into practice for himself. His partner, the attorney who took all the sworn statements from my nuroligist was just appointed to social security judge. Maybe my hearing judge will give my attorney now judge's opinions more weight. The law group I choose only handles social security cases and they have a reputation of only taking honest cases. It's known that they turn many cases down because they feel the people are not being honest or are acting more than they are really injured. Well, wish me luck. About one more month until my hearing.

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      Found out today my hearing judge requested a medical expert for my hearing. I guess my doctors sworn statements aren't good enough. Did some research on my judge, she has a history of deniles. I found a list and nation wide she is ranked as one of the lowest approval judges. My attorney told me not to worry, but being a retired police officer I've seen to many victims lose cases because of judges not allowing evidence into play. We all remember the OJ case. The judge that handled that case is the reason a killer went free, no matter how much the LAPD messed up. Judges have access to records that juror can't see, they know when someone is lying or not. There is something wrong when some judges approve 98 percent of their cases and others approve 16 percent. The more research I do the sicker I feel. I would have a better chance getting government help if I floated onto a beach in Florida or Miami and started speaking Spanish and said I'm Cuban. I would get a chech and a food stamp card, instantly. I live in Miami and see it first hand. People come here, never work one day and they receive more money and benefits than people who worked 30 years. What a country. It's true. My mother is 72, worked until being diognosed with cancer at 62, her social security is less than her neighbor who never worked one day in this country plus her friend gets $200.00, in a food stamp card. What's wrong with this picture. I worked my whole life, get injured, suffer for three years, have files of medical proof and my country tells me to bad. Suck it up, take you replaced hip, fused spine with rods and screws along with all your medication and go back to work. Never mind that no doctor in the world will ever release me to work and my last job required me to carry a gun. Go do something else. Even though I can't physically, my wonderful government does not care. You will fight for every penny, even though you paid FICA your entire life. Once again, I understand why people go crazy. I consider myself normal, next month maybe different. No wonder so many groups are anti government. To think I spent my entie adult defending the

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Thanks for reading, Granny!

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Gosh, Bogey, I really hate that you're getting the runaround. I hope and pray this is all resolved for you next month! Hang in there!

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      Bogey99 7 years ago

      You know what really gets me. You can meet social security's own definition under step three of their five step process and you should get approved. It's their own blue book. I meet two of their own definitions and have medical support but they still put you through hell. It makes you sick. They have a five step process, you can meet four of them but they have that fith one just to screw with you. That's the step that says you can do any type of work they choose, even if you have no skills in that area.

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      Holle Abee 7 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, I don't understand that, either. What the heck are the listing impairments for??

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      It seems they use it when they want to and why they don't or if your young they go to step 5. If you can do any type of work in your area or the nation than your not disabled. So if the President breaks his back and cannot work as the President, social security can put him as a toll booth operator. That's why they have step 5. To turn as many people down and it's their policy. That's why being over 50 helps. Less stupid options for them.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      I agree, Bogey - it's a crazy system!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I saw an Internet site that said our congress wants these rules to prevent people who don't deserve social security benefits from getting them. It seems once again those jerks on capital hill have only managed to prevent the people who need and deserve social security benefits from getting help. I wrote the congress man for my district and asked him one question. Why did two private disability programs find me permanantly abs totally disabled in about three to six weeks yet social security, having the same medical records is still making me wait after three years. We all know it's a federal program but the first two stages are run by your state. We know they don't read the files or request any extra records, your file sits in a room full of files than every few months the grab a stack and deni the vast majorty and give a small percentage help. From three to six weeks private, over three years and counting our government. Something is broken.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      No kidding - our government has been broken for a long time. Look at it this way: once you get approved, you'll get a huge first check!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I hope your correct.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      I hope so, too, Bogey!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I go to my hearing in two days. What stress, my family and my life is in the hands of some judge who could probably care less about me and just want to get my case out of her court room. I hope not. All I want is a fair hearing and hope the judge reads my file. If she reads my file I have a good chance. It's not like I'm making up my hip surgery and lumbar fusion or the 15 injections in my back and knee not to mention months of physical therapy. Almost forgot the 4 Botox injections in my nect for my herniations in my neck. Well Thursday is my big day. God bless America.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      PLEASE let me know how it goes! I'll say another prayer!

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      Bogey98 6 years ago

      I WON!!! The hearing Judge made a bench ruling after their medical expert said I meet three different disability ratings based on his review of my file. The hearing lasted about 15 to 20 mins. Three years two months and seven days. At least my judge was fair and she read my file. Being honest, having good doctors and an attorney also helped. Thank god it's over. Thanks for your support and to everyone get a social security attorney and be honest. I saw alot of people today who didn't look at all disabled. That's way the real disabled people suffer. Best of luck to all. I will continue to write.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, I've been thinking about you ALL DAY!! I'm so happy for you!! Thanks for letting me know. YAYYYYYYY!!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Thank you for your support. I learned alot yesterday. I think a big problem is so many people are not honest or they try to make their condition look worse than it is. At least that's what I noticed in Miami, Florida. I saw people using wheel chairs inside the building but they walked perfect when they left. I saw two women dressed like they were going to night clubs. The judges aren't stupid, if your records say you require a wheel chair than you wouldn't be denied. Your opening letter says it all. Be honest. That's why the system is so back logged. I can tell you my hearing judge read my file. I know this because when I would say my doctor she would refer to them by their name. Since I have 8 different doctors it was obvious to me that she reviewed my file from page one to the end. So be aware, the hearing judges catch you if you over acting or lying. Thank you again for your support and advise. I only wish I knew about your web site three years ago:)

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      I totally agree with you, Bogey! The fakers make it hard for the rest of us. Congrats again!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Hello. Remembe a while back I mentioned I wrote a letter to our district congress man. Neither he or his office ever responded, that was three weeks ago. I bet if I wrote to ask if I could help with his election details he'd respond. Unreal. Also went to the social security office to get a new copy of my daughter's social security card. If you think the DMV is messes up. Waited an hour to get yelled at by some rude lady. I had a copy of her original card and a birth certificate, she just turned 15, so she doesn't have any real ID. Well had to go back yesterday, with her report card. Now that social security will take as ID. Birth certificate legal document they won't take, unreal. That place is so messed up. What's funny or sad is every social security office in Florida is the same. I saw a man yesterday with no legs in a wheel chair and he was at least 45 to 50. Now it probably takes that man one to two hours everyday to shower, put his legs on, get dressed. He probably needs assistance. If he drives, he needs a special vehicle and just getting in and out of the vehicle takes him at let 10 to 15 min. Not to mention all the meds he must be on. Well I only bring this up because while I sat a social security for over an hour I asked myself why is this poor man even here. Can't a photograph of him and his medical reports speak on his behalf. His case can and should be approved in less than 5 mins. That's just messed up. I spoke to him and he is going through the same crap that 70 percent of us go through or went through. I just went through over three years of hell and as a spoke to this man it broke my heart to see him and to know what mental BS social security is going to put him through. I don't even want to start with the room full of people I saw and heard talking and laughing about how they get SSI and life is great and they are more than healthy enough to work, they just want a free check. Makes me sick. I would gladly exchange my social security disabilty for my old life and go back to work. Fisrt I made a lot more money, second I had my health and finally I felt good about myself. I liked my old job and life. I went from a police sergeant helping people in my home town to a disabled man in the blink of an eye. Well I can't change the past but I'm going to write every person on capital hill a fix this mess. They are going to hate me before I am finished. This broken down system needs to change. Well that's my thought for today, god bless America and all the brave men and women who protect us.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, good to see you again! Sounds like you're on a crusade. Good for you! I will never understand SSDI. I was lucky, but I've heard a lot of horror stories. I think the fact that I was 50 years old helped my case. At least your was FINALLY approved! I'm so glad it was. What are you gonna do with that fat check?? lol

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Pay a lot of bills. Maybe a new computer so I can write everyone I can and get someone in a position of power to change the broken system. I worked for the government for almost twenty years. I watched our agency waste hundreds of thousands of dollars every year. If you add up all the wasted money from every government agency every American could live the American dream that President FDR planned 80 years ago. That's when we had a middle class and mom could stay at home and take care of the house and kids. What went wrong? Well I can't be selfish, just because I won doesn't mean I don't care about those getting the run around. So for everyone fighting social security, don't give up. Write Congress, your Govenor and your Senator. They all are aware, they just don't care. Remember, November is election time and than 2012. They need our votes. That's my thought for the day. God bless America and our brave men and women keeping us safe.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I received my approval letter from my hearing judge. Fully Favorable Decision in bold letters. The best part is it's now offical from the day I was injured, which was over three years ago. Now I just have to wait for my local office to move their worthless asses and process my file. I can only speak for Florida but the people who work down here treat everyone like crap and they don't care. They should be happy they have a government job because with their crap attitudes they would never make it in the public sector. Besides if it wasn't for disabled people there would be no need for them. I would rather have my teeth pulled with out and pain medication than deal with my local social security office. When they talk to you it's like your bothering them. One day I'm gonna take my cane and wrap it around one of their heads and then ask them how does it feel. Only after I hit the lotto:). Is social security nasty in Ga? In my last job which was my only job, if I spoke to people like that I would have been fired. What ever happened to treating people the way you want to be treated. Oh well, god bless everyone out there and our troops.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Bogey. The first SS lady I met with was kinda rude, but the second one was very nice. I guess it's just the luck of the draw who you end up with.

      Please remember your old pal (me!) when you hit the lotto!!

      And don't attack anyone with your cane. You'll wind up in jail and won't get to enjoy your lotto winnings! lol

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I won't forget you if I win the lotto or hit the rude social security case workers with my cane. But they sure make you want to slap them. I have only had one nice person and that was at my reconsideration level. Not only was she nice she was angry that that denied me and told me how to fight social security. Also my judge was not only nice but she seemed to care about doing what's best for me. Her decision was dated the day after my hearing, now that's action. But my local office is unreal. I won't be surprised if some crazy person walks in their and shoots everyone. When people are hurt and desperate, they don't need or deserve to be treated like dirt. You were lucky, first you live in a friendly state and you didn't go through all three stages of the social security process. Did you know that a few states have done away with the reconsideration level. They realize it's stupid to send a denied case back to the same group who denied it in the first place. Also that will speed up the process by six to nine months. Well I hope all fifty states adopt this for everyone. Take care, god bless everyone fighting social security, America and our brave men and women fighting for us.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Hello Habee,Hope all is well read your article very helpful tips.I am 35 and became disabled in 2002 my manager then sent me to a company dr. he treated me with phisical therapy and crotisone shots for 7 months. for those 7 months i worked with restrictions I only got worse the company dr. finally decided I needed surgery I took it upon myself and seeked a second opinion the second opinion Dr. agreed that I needed surgery. he performed 4 on my right arm elbow shoulder and wrist at that time I was receiving workers comp benefits the workers comp benefits stopped I was forced to go to work considering my condition well I have to support my family,I worked for a year from 9/08 to 9/09 i just could not perform my job duties my Dr. took me off of work and I have been off since i applied for state dissability I received benefitts for a year and now i have no income as dissabillty ran out i applied for Social Security and i have a Dr's appointment 9/12/10 for a mental exam I have suffered from depression, sleep disorder, headaches I find it very hard to enjoy life the dissability analyst that is handling my case is very nice I took your advice and wrote a letter to her explaining how all this started and what my symptoms are now i am a father of 3 lil girls ages 11,7,2 that need me my wife work she is also a teacher but it is not enough at the moment she tries her best to make me feel better and i thank her for that,my goal is to overcome all this illness and become an automotive instructor, now does the fact that i have 3 kids will that help support my case aswell as my illness? any tips..

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Hey Chilly get an ATTORNEY. A specialist in social security cases. Your age is against you. Your kids only help once your approved, they have nothing to do with the decision process. I just went through over three years of dealing with social security. Also a good attorney can help you prove you were disabled from the date of your orirginal injury. If you have access to a computer, go to the social security web site and review their 5 step determination process. If you don't meet step 3, they will try to find any type of work for you even if that type of work does not exist in your area of the country. I did not understand this and it cost me over three years to get approved. Best advise was from this web site. Be honest, follow up with your doctors, your doctor MUST agree your disabled and get an attorney. Good luck, don't give up and make copies of everything. Doctor notes, MRI, Cat Scans, therapy and any thing you have done.

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      chilly 6 years ago

      Thanks for your response bogey, Should I get attorney even though I have not been denied yet.Or should I wait to see what the outcome of my Dr's appointment will be? I have a workers comp Attorney who is handling my workers comp case, he advised me to wait and see if I get denied first, then he will recommend me to a social security attorney he knows.what do you think?

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Well I waited and was approved than denied after a review than denied and reconsideration level. Hired a social security who knew what questions to ask and how to prepare my file and my case was approved in less than 15 mins. So to answer your question, if I had to to it again I would use a social security attorney ASAP. Keep your workers comp attorney as well. Remember, social security attorneys only get paid if you win. You only out of pocket expeses are for medical records and any extra sworn medical statements put together by your doctor and your social security attorney. Just remember, social security is not on your side. They will do everything at the local levels to deni you. Their record speaks for it's self. They deni around 88 percent at the first level that 80 percent at the second level. So the odds are not good. In addition, your young so that's against you. I was 41 when I started and 44 when I was approved. The final level, has around a 50 to 60 percent approval rate. That's for two reasons. One most people get to speak to a real person and second they have an attorney.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Well Bogey, I spoke to a social security attorney they recommended to wait and see if i get denied since my dr. appointment is just around the corner on 9/12/10. they have no problem representing me as of now but in case I do get approved i don't have to share my benefits with the attorney,if i get denied then i should call them,the person who is handling my case the social security analyst contacted me and asked for my bank information so that they can deposit my benfits automatically,to me it sounds promissing, put i don't want to get my hopes high,this is why i am asking these questions..Thanks Again!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Sounds good. Best wishes. The doctor your seeing, is the doctor a social security doctor. Becareful. If your seeing their doctor, as soon as you leave write everything down. In my case I found at least ten to twelve lies. In addition, they sent me to a pediatric doctor and I have a spinal condition. I was in a room full of children. By the way, what state are you in Chilly. Even though social security is a federal system, the first two levels are state run and every state is different. Some move quickly. I'm in Florida they move in reverse. From the day I filed to my approval date was three years two months and six days. I pray you don't go what I went through. Even my hearing judge felt sorry for me and I researched he and she has one of the lowest approval ratings in the country. What ever happens, don't give up and file all you appeals on time if you have to. Good luck. Bring all your medical reports and medications your taking with you. The doctor will ask you and the doctors file will probably be incomplete. Don't give them your documents just let them copy them. Trust me, social security will ask you for the same things over and over. Keep good records. Names, dates phone extentions. Not trying to scare you I've just gone through what your about to begin. I wish I was better prepared. I found this site a few months before my hearing date but I want to help everyone I can. Good luck.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Hey bogey,I really apreciate your time. Well I'm going to say the Dr. is a Social Seccurity Dr.considering they recommended me to him.Oh I am in California does it work different here?Oh by the way Bogey! did you know how much you were going to receive while your case was pending, I only ask because they have already told me how much i will be receiving monthly and they will pay me pack pay as far back as March, they also informed me of how much I will receive for each child, does this mean anything.or do they inform you in case you get approved.Thanks!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I wish I could tell you the amount means something but it really does not. The amount is based on your earnings over the years you worked. Your kids are also based on a figure social security uses with a maximum cap. You probably live in the worse state. Sorry, it's all about numbers. Your state has the largest poulation and handles the most cases. Now depending on what part of Cal, can make a difference. Just like my state, the counties north of me handle thousands of cases less per week than in Miami, where I'm from. When I go to my local office it's at least a two hour wait, with an appointment I still wait a half hour or longer. So if your in La, it's different than Northern Cal. Hope that helps. Just remember, if your case is well documented and your doctors specialize in the area of your injury that means a lot. I learned that social security is a mess because so many people are trying to get a free check. Those people cause the system to break down or people who deserve help to suffer and wait. Regardless, don't stop fighting if your truly injured. I had to go before a judge after over three years but my work history, medical records, attorney and being honest helped me win in the end. Also do your homework. Go to social securitys web site. Read how they determine if you meet their listings. You can be disabled under long term disability or your own job's policy and denied by social security because they define disability different. That's why social security attorneys are so important. They understant this and know how to question your doctors to support your claim. Good luck, be prepared.

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      chilly 6 years ago

      Thanks gain bogey!yeah I am in Los Angeles everything has been moving pretty quickly since I applied back in May 2010 so I quess I'm lucky for that,will see what happens on Sept 12, I'll keep you posted. Thanks Again! you've been lots of help!!God Bless!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Good luck with everything. Four months to see their doctor is prety quick. It took me eight months but I had hip surgery a few months after I applied so my case may have been delayed because of me. Hopefully your case will go smothly.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Hey Chilly. I was trying to remember when I began the social security process. From what I remember, the first few people seemed like they truly wanted to help and I was approved in a few months. The problem is the people you don't see and they don't see or talk to you. They just look at numbers.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey and Chilly, I'm glad you guys found each other here!! Best to both of you!

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      What numbers bogey?

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Every year social security send an earnings statement. They go over what you will receive at 62-65 or if you become disabled. It's based on your earnings and what you have paid into social security over your life time. It's different for everyone and it has a cap at 95 thousand a year. Since your applying for disability you may have to go to you local office to get your statement. As soon as I applied they stopped sending mine and I called them and they said because I'm trying to get disability they have stopped sending my statement. Check with the person in charge of your case because the statement is sent out in July. My attorney was able to figure mine disability based on my w-2 forms. Hope that helps.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Habee, I hope I can help everyone avoid going through what I just went through:). The system is crazy and depending on where you live, if the case worker wants to help you or they think your youg enough to work, they will mess with you. It's not fair and it needs to stop. I told you just because I won I'm not going to stop. As long as I can type, I'm going to keep fighting social security and their broken unfair system. That's all I have for today. God bless America our troops and happy labor day to all.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly the other numbers deal with you level of impairments. Social security rates you. Your doctor at the early stages does not have the same weight as it does when you go before a judge. Also your age. It shouldn't determine anything but it does. The facts speak for themselves. Habee will agree, if your 50 to 60, you have a much easier chance of getting approved than if your 30 to 40. It wrong that social security does that but they do. Two people can have they same disabilty but one is 50 the other is 30 and in 80 percent of the cases the 50 year old will get approved and the 30 year old will get denied. In addition, your education is used against you. The higher educated you are the more jobs social security will try to say you can do. It's sad but true. Read their web site or talk to your social security attorney. If your under 50 you must meet their disability definition under step three of their list of impairments or have a combination. It's very hard to figure out social securities system. Also every state, city and county is different even though it's a federal system. Hope that helps, I spent three years trying to figure it out and all I can say is social security is like every government run agency. Screwed up!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly after your file is complete it is revised by a doctor who is paid by social security. That doctor will not talk to you. He or she will only look at your file at rate you base on your condition using their rating system, your age and education. In addition a vocational may also review your file and determine you can work even though your unable to perform you previous job. They can say you cancollect tickets at a movie theater and your not disabled. Not to scare you I just want to prepare you. When I reviewed my medical file that social security had on me I almost fell on the floor. Have my file was incomplete and I'm still dealing with their mistakes three years later. That's why you make copies and write name of everyone because months even years later they will lie to your face and say you never told us that. That's when I pull out my file and start telling them when it was sent, who received it and who I spoke to. That's why so many people win when they go before the hearing judge. The file they have is reviewed by you or you attorney, than updated with all your records. Be prepared. Habee was I was not. Her case took probably three years less than mine. She also in a different state with a social security office with some common sense.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Wow!!Bogey, Thanks again this is very helpful info.I will definetly write down as much as I can, like I said so far so good in my case moving pretty fast so will see come sunday the 12th,well my appointment is a mental exam the analyst handling my case says that I need a mental exam only. the reports she has for the surgeries I had on my arm and shoulder are ok they will use those with my case.I also wrote a letter to them to help support my case also had my workers comp attorney dictate a letter I hope all this will help me in my case. Thanks bogey!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Wish you the best!

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      Mendel Potok 6 years ago

      Thanks for putting this up, and comments have been great. I feel much more confident applying for SSI, thanks guys!

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, glad you're providing this additional info!

      Chilly, let us know how it goes!

      Thanks, Mendel!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      No problem. You have great advise for everyone applying and getting your doctors on your side as well as taking notes on everything. I didn't do those things and it cost me over three years and an attorney. So listen to Habee if your starting and if you've been denied maybe I can help since i just went through the entire process and it was not fun. Also I know I bash our government from time to time but is only because it's a right that many brave men and women gave me and all of us. As you go about your daily activities this week, remember Sarurday is 9/11. For most of us, it's the darkest moment in American history because we lived it. God bless the victims and their families.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      I sure will,I don't know how long it takes for them to tell you if you've been approved. But I will definetly let you know what the outcome is.Thanks to your info Habee & bogey I think I'm on the right track. so far I've done everything right as far as all thee advice I have gotten from you two.Thanks again!! God Bless!!!

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      Daniel Christian 6 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

      If there is someone on Social security I can help out with a job from home, please check out: https://hubpages.com/community/Fellow-Hubbers-Will... I am asking people in the hubpage community because I know they are quality writers. It's working directly for me helping QC the work of some of my Filipino writers. Thanks guys.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Habee I have a question for you or anyone who knows? After your approved how long does it take for social security to call you and start the payment process. I called social security today and I show up on their computer as approved but the person I spoke to said you have to wait, someone will contact you. Than he adds the hard part is over. Well that doesn't pay my bills. I guess it's easy being a smart ass over the phone. Funny I received a letter from the judge in less than a week and I'm still getting the run around from social security. Even when you win they make you suffer.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Hey Bogey,Today I talked to my social security analyst handling my case, she says it takes around two weeks and I think it does one of my friends was approved on the first try, and received his check around two weeks later before he received the approved letter. so yeah he received his check before his letter.now I don't know how it works in Maimi here in L.A. I think it's different the office handling my case is San Diego.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Thanks. I have my approval letter just waiting on the local office to do what they are paid to do. Their job. Well I will keep checking my mail box.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      well I made it to my mental exam today, I was not feeling to good I could barely get out of bed, if it wasn't for my wife that pushed me to get out of bed i probably would have missed it, feelin somewhat better now,the appointment went well I think the Dr.she was very nice asked lots of mental depression questions I answered each one honestly it was about a 25 to 30 min session. she said she would send my report in to the SS analyst that's handling my case for aproval she said it would take about 2 weeks then they will tell me.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Keep a good record. I know you said your not feeling well, sorry to hear that but remember if your not approved things you were asked today may be asked months if not years from now. So try to write everthing you can remember down so social security can't say you said one thing today and something else the next time they speak to you. Good luck.

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      chilly 6 years ago

      Thanks Bogey!! now all I have to do is be patient, and hope for the best...

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I wish you all the best, your health and with social security. What ever happens, don't let it bring you down. I found my mental status drop faster than the stock market and it was because of the stress of social security. Prety bad when hip surgery and back surgery was less stressful than the social security process. So stay positive no matter what. Also continue with your doctors. Good luck!

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Well going on my 4th day since my mental exam no word from Social security yet, don't know if that's good or bad???

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly I know it's hard but try to keep your mind on it being a long adventure not a short trip. They take there sweet time, than your file goes from one person to another. It sucks! I was approved on August 19, and I still haven't heard anything from social security. I have a letter from my hearing judge and it says fully favorable decision and the local office said they received it but they haven't Done anything except tell me I have to keep waiting. Just hang in there.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      Chilly i went for my CE on August 10 2010, and DDS did nor receive it from them until September 9th. As of sept 9th the DDS doc had it and it is now the 20th and i was Informed by the 1800 number that A Decision has been made but we cant tell you you need to call 1800 @#$!&@*. So i called that number and turns out to be my DDS Caseworker who stated that a decision has been made and was dispatched this morning i will receive the decision in the mail in a couple days. Is it good Or Bad i don't know. I hope and pray but who knows ultimately. I am on Active Army Duty but am wounded and medivacuated to a WTU OCT Last year. Good luck. I will keep posted on whet i find out.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      well, I was told by the analyst handling my case on friday the 17th that she was just waiting on the report from my mental exam so that she can move forward with my case, she also said it would take around two weeks to get a decision so it's a lil over a week so far hopefully I get something before the first as my mortgage is due! got my fingers crossed!!

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      I hope so also Chilly. As stated they told me that the Exam Dr i was sent to had 10 Buisness days to submit his report. But when i asked him he sid it could be a month. (Which he took every bit of it.) He seemed very orriented on my case and a 15min exam turned into 2.5 hrs. He also stated he would like to be my follow-up Dr upon my discharge from Service as he has not had a case as severe as mine in a long time. (I am hoping this is a good sign also) As i will be out of the Service in a few months and seeing as VA and Military Comp wont kick in for an additional few months after leaving i really need this. I just had a new child on the 2nd sept and i am living Check to check as it is so no income will most likely cause another MANIC/DEPRESSIVE and my family cannot handle that at the moment. Nor can I.

      But they stated that the decision has been made and i will receive something in the main in a few days but i will continnue to call the 1800 number to check and today is my normal weekly SSFO call day so maybe my caseworker will know something.

      Chilly at the 10 day mark call the dr that you saw (Only if they seemed NICE) and ask if they had sent the report. But call the DDS case work first if he hasn't received it yet then i would call the Dr. The report goes into the system where SS and DDS can see if it is there.

      Just be very TACTFUL in your approach and you should be OK. I tryed to build a reporr with my DDS and SSFO case managers before i hit them with stuff.

      Good Luck and i wish you the best. I will keep you informed on my Case as it comes.

      Habee this is an excellent BLOG thank you for taking the time to write it.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly and Mike I just received my notice of my first check. It is scheduled for October 13, 2010. That will be three years, four months and one day from the day I was injured. Don't trust the doctor or case workers. They will tell you anything to get rid of you. That's why so many social security attorneys are out there. It's sad but true. I had a bench decision and they still took 45 days to release my monthly check, they still owe me almost three years in back pay plus my children. All I can say is they do everything backwards and you suffer. I tried to give them everything several times, sent everything certified and as of yesterday they are calling me on Friday to complete my file for the forth time. I wonder what they do with everything I send them? The very first forms I filled out was my back information with a copy of a voided check. They lost it. Please trust me, they will screw with you. The doctors will lie and so will the case workers. As far as the people doing the reviews, they will do everything to deni you. I have no reason to lie, I went through the entire process. At every level they tell you were here to help you but they just want to get rid of your case. Good luck, I hope your situation is different then my case was. Remember I was found disabled by two private companies in less than six weeks and denied by social security until my hearing. My hearing lasted 15 mins. How does that happen? All my case workers and social security doctors were nice and told me everything I wanted to hear. Then my letter came, denied. Some doctor who never saw me from another state determined my case. Just be prepared for a long fight and don't trust them. No one working for social security is your friend. Your a case number. As soon as your gone, they move on to another case. It sucks! That's the way it is. Good luck, don't give up and hire an attorney. God bless everyone and our troops.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      Well got the Bad news today in a nice shinny envelope. You do not meet the BLAH BLAH BLAH. They F*D up on two accounts. I was never enrolled in the wounded warrior fast track program, and by their write up of why i was denied(only 5 sentences i must add)as to my over 1300 Pages of medical records) in breif my anxiety and bipolar donot affect my daily activities and my shoulder pain doesnot affect my rage of motion to beable to work. Also i am to young. My medical records state numerous times that i have very limited range ie. no overhead no behindback nomore then 5lbs lift for more than 2-4 min ect... and my Mental health states that it is inconpacitating at times cannot leave my house due to anxiety and even though in Military being med boarded for same issues only show at 1 0830 formation which lasts less then 5 min the rest of the time i am at a doctor or in my home. I would love to stay in military and continue fighting ive tried but body and dr say nope. and right now we are taking anyone litterally. And yet i am nolonger to do what i love nor just about anything else for that matter and i get this. Its crazy a 5 time war Veteran blown up twice capable of surviving and now reduced to Not being able to tie my own G*& D&^MN shoes isn't good enough. Even though we put our life on the line so they can sit there and be $#%^ Lazy and pick the short stack to review instead (His is big im just gonna glance through it)lazy mo%^#$fu%Krs i would love to go bck out there with my soldiers. Give me My body and mind back or at least do your damn job. Im sorry im just venting.

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      Boget99 6 years ago

      RX7Mike, don't give up. Make sure you file your appeal in the time frame they give you. If you've done as much research as I've done you'll understand. They only approve 12 percent the first time and it's about the same on appeal. That's why you need an attorney who handles social security cases. They told me the same crap. I was approved then denied after a review. The main reason was my condition would improve. Two years later I had a second surgery. The other reason was my age. They said I'm young enough to do something else. After going before a hearing judge with an attorney and a completed medical file, my attorney had social securitys own doctors finding me disabled. It sucks but that's what social security does. I've said it many times, they don't care. Do not trust them. Just do your research on social security attorneys in your city/state. Good luck, sorry you got turned down but don't give up. That's what the want. Trust me. When you finally win you will feel like the entire world has been lifted off your back. Then you can tell everyone who didn't approve you, I told you so. That's the best part. That's why Habee and myself are here, to give advise and help those who truly need it. In the end I saw why so many people get turned down. To many people fake it and they screw up the system for the truly disabled people. Keep you head up, don't stop fighting. It's tough, stressful and difficult. If you do your homework, find a great attorney and get your doctor to agree with your disability, you will win. Keep us posted and if you need any assistance, just ask. I check this web site everyday and I know what it feel like to get those wonderful letters from social security. In my previous job I was trained in explosives. I had many sleepless night dreaming of ways to fix their system but in the end god and my friends who I've never met on the Internet. Led me to beat them at their own game. So in the end good advise and using the systems rules worked better than a few hundred pounds of C-4. By the way the last part was a joke, I'm not crazy but I felt like I was going crazy. Hang in there, I know it's easy for me to say but you have to. I just hope you don't have to wait as long as I did. My state and city have a very long and slow process. Well I will follow your updates.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Great idea, Daniel!!

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, I am SOOOOOOOOO happy that your SSDI was finally approved!

      Chilly, best of luck to you!

      Mike, as Bogey said, DO NOT give up on getting your social security disability approved!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Rx7Mike. What City/State are you in? Just interested because there are a lot of social security attorney groups on the Internet. Becareful, they sound good but you want one in your city or county. You only pay them when if you win. There are a few out of pocket expenses, doctors reports and if your attorney takes a sworn statement from your doctor. That happens as you get close to your hearing. Prepare your doctor in advance and make sure he is 100 percent behind you being disabled under social securitys list of impairments. You can down load their list but a good social security attorney knows how to question your doctor and get the answers to help you case. From what I learned, the judges read everything. That's good and bad. One wrong statement can hurt you but a strong doctors statement can win your case. Best wishes, god bless our brave men and women keeping us safe.

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      pattmatt 6 years ago

      I started the SS disability process in April 2010. I am a 44 y/o female with fibro, arthritis in both knees and shoulder, migraines, depression/anxiety for last ten years and last two years I have had recurrent MRSA skin infections every couple months. I was laid off..(well that's what my comp said) but I missed alot of work from having to go have IV antibiotics. My last job was clerical related and I suffered daily from sitting long periods of time and my hands would go to sleep and tingle after typing but I enjoyed the feeling of going to work. My degree is medical assisting but I quit that a few years back because I could no longer stand on my feet eight hours a day and I could not lift patients anymore either.

      I got my first denial in August and since the denial I have hired ALLSUP to represent my case. Has anyone had good success rate with them?

      Doe's anyone know if MRSA is on the blue book list of the diagnosis that SS deems disabled?

      Thanks for any help and have a blessed day!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Pattmatt, I have never heard of Allsup. Are they in your City/State or County? If not I recommed you get an attorney in your area and they need to be social security attorneys. Get all your medical records and a good attorney will do the rest. Make sure your doctor is a specialist in the area of your condition and he or she agrees your disabled. Using social securitys own rules, your disabled if you cannot work an 8 hour day 40 hour week. The social security vocational expert will always find something but since your last job was at the lowest level of physical lifting it's harder for them to find anything less. If you can't sit/stand for an 8 hour day your disabled. The problem is the people reviewing your first appeal are the same jerks who denied you. So your only fair decision will be when you go before a judge. Also, I found out when my attorney recived my file from social security it was incomplete and their doctor lied. Sorry you are going through this, it's a very crapy system. Just talk with you doctor and make sure he or she agrees you unable to work than get a good attorney. If the group your with is from out of your state you can write them a certified letter a in a couple of line explain that you are dismissing them. Once you receive the returned certified mail receipt you can go with any attorney. You want one in your area. Remember, the judges and attorneys all know eachother in your county. They won't know an out of state attorney and an out of state won't know the judge. That can be a problem. Some judges like things a certain way and attorneys who go before the same judges everyday know what each judge likes and does not like. The last thing you want is a piss off judge deciding your fate. Good luck.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Pattmatt, I did a little research on allsup. My opinion they are full of it. They do not have a 98 percent approval rate. Also they are in IL. They handle cases for long term disability companies. It's a scam, the long term diability companies make you feel you have to use Allsup when the truth is you can choose any attorney you want. Than Allsup and the long term disability take a big portion of your back pay. My attorney was a social security judge and he explained everything to me and all the scams. My attorney could have take a lot of my back pay and only charged me the minimum. He had honor and was very honest to me. If your in Miami he is the best. But no attorney wins 98 percent. That's a lie. Just check you local are and choose a social security who knows you county and the judges. My attorney told me point blank, my judge is very tough and she reads everything. He was correct. I have eight doctors and see knew everyone by name. So I knew she read my file from front to back. But I'm glad because she was fair to me and knew I was telling the truth. Don't rush into picking someone off the Internet. Every city/ county has law groups. A good attorney will tell you you have a good case and your medical evidence supports your claim but they cannot tell you you going to win. That's just a lie. I switch attorneys because my long term disability made me feel I hade to use a group 2000 miles from Miami. Once I met my attorney and he explained the prctice of making people feel they have to use groups working for the disability company, I got rid of them and it was the best thing I did, next to finding Habee. We are here to help. Habee is very smart and I went through the entire process. Between the two of us we have plenty of advise. It's up to you but it's much nicer driving to your attorneys office, giving them copies of all your medical records and dealing with a face/ person. Best wishes, keep us posted.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      So upon receiving the Denial on thursday i filed for reconcideration online that evening. I spoke with my doctors on friday which they are all on board. I spoke with the SSFO friday and found that indeed i was not forwarded my right to expidited claim on the new Wounded Warrior Program, Mistake #1, I did not receive in the denial statement the CE Dr's statement, Mistake #2, Not all of my Injuries/Illnesses where concidered, Mistake #3.

      My main ailment is BiPolar 2. Which meets or exceeds all three of the criteria in the SSDI Blue book. It is not even mentioned in the denial notice or report that SSI has.

      So i contacted the Governor by email and was supprised to actually get a call from him the next morning, Well Aide Then Him,But< he said he would be unable to help as it is a federal agency. I stated that the issue is actually with the State agency DDS that made the dicision. He said he will look into that requested a release from me to be faxed back to him. He then gave me a POC for the congressman in my area and said to email on his site, but to also email #########@#####.GOV but to make sure that i mention He gave me that email and explain my situation.

      So saturday i received a notice from SSD saying they got my appeal but need a release from me to use new information. I am going there in the am with my updated records.

      So now just the waiting Game i guess.

      I will keep all posted. TY.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Rx7Mike, that's the game they play. Hang in there and get an attorney in your area who works social security.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Rx7Mike, I wrote my cogressman. It's messed up because it's a federal system but it starts in your state and local area. I made some mistakes as well because I didn't do my homework and know about Habee's site. It's sad that disabled people have to play games to get what they deserve.

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      TahomyGirl 6 years ago

      I would like to thank Habee for this informational thread. And to Bogee...You are so interesting to listen too. It made me sad to hear the struggles you have gone through before being approved especially with a wife and children! Thank you, you seem very sweet and to the point along with being very intelligent. I will enjoy checking back in now and then. Good luck to all of us!

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Well Bogey and Habee, here is my update I spoke to my SS Analyst yesterday she received my mental exam report. it is good report according to her but now I have received a second Dr's appointment for a Bone and Spinal exam wich is related to my industrial accident. I will have this exam on 10/11/10, I have had Mri's already and x-rays where it shows I have positive tenderness, and cervical radiculopathy wich I think is causing my limited motion and numbness, now my question is should I take my x-rays and mri's in to this exam and is this good or bad that there asking for another exam but different? Thanks!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly I'm not an attorney but the social security case worker is going to want them and the social security doctor is not going to pay to have these tests done. So my advise is bring what you have, let the doctor review it make copies but don't let them keep your original reports. You might need them later and that's an extra expense to you. I just made a file. I listed every doctor 8. Each has a section with all my doctors reports, tests and MRI'S. That file went to everywhere they sent me and I would let the make copies. I also had a page where I wrote the date and name of who I gave the copies to. It comes in handy when the claim they don't have it or you never gave it to them. Good luck, protect yourself.

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      Chily 6 years ago

      Thanks bogey, I will ask my Dr. for these x-ray & mri films I will show them to the SS Dr.yeah your right I don't think they will perform any x-rays or mri's, I think all they are going to do is check my arm and neck but with my x-ray & mri's they have a better view at the diagnosis,should I send copies to the analyst handling my case aswell or should I just give copies to the SS Dr.?Thanks again Bogey!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly your MRI should have a written report as well as the film. The social security case worker isn't a doctor and probably can't read the films. If you can, go to the place where you had your MRI and ask for the written portion. It's basiclly a report by the Radiologist

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Tohomygirl thankyou. Chilly one last thing, social security needs all your reports to make a decision and eventhough the have you sign a release if your doctors charge for the paper work social security won't pay. So it's up to you to make sure they have everything. It stinks because I've spoken with so many people who reviewed their case file and they all say social security's file was missing important items. When I reviewed my file it was incomplete. Your file goes from person to person, they won't pay the extra fees for medical reports and it's a typical government agency. Do as much as you can to help your case because they won't. If it's not in your file when they are making their review your screwed. Good luck!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Tahomygirl sorry I messed up your name. I use an I touch and the screen is so small I can't review what I write and my fingers tend to hit the wrong letters from time to time. Hope Habee's information or my information is helpful. If your dealing with social security I hope it's going well. Don't trust them. That is the best advise I can give. Most people get fooled by the case workers because they act like they are trying to help and some are. The problem is they have supervisors who review their cases and those people don't talk to you and just want to get rid of your file. In other words, they don't have a heart. Best wishes with your case.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Just to give all the readers and Habee a laugh. I received four letters yesterday. First was explaining Medicare, second was to resent my pin to access social security because they shut my old code off, third was explaining my direct deposit plan and the forth was a letter explaining some $250.00, chech they are going to send my because of a bill the President signed in 2009. Here is the funny part, every letter starts off explaining the paper saving act yet every thing they do is on paper. They have my e-mail. In addition they send copies of the same letters to my attorney. I wonder how much money the spend killing trees. They have my phone and e-mail yet they just love sending letters. Here is another funny thing. They all end the same way. You should expect payment in 30 days. My case was settled on August 19, 2010. All I have is a Medicare card and a bunch of letters. Just want to give you guys a laugh. The pony express ended in the 19th century. God bless everyone and our brave men and women who keep us safe and allow people like me to blast our government when they are wrong. I love this country and I am pround to be an American but sometimes I just have to say WOW!

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, that is too funny! Our government at work!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      They keep the Lumber Jacks busy!!!!!

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Lol, Bogey!

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Hello Habee, my wife is considering writing a letter to the SS analyst that's handling my case. I know you advised to do as much as I can to help support my case, I have already wrote one to them explaining my situation. she feels that people who suffer from deep depression are really not aware of there action and what they are going through.I have been feeling very sad and depressed lately I blame myself for everything that happens I sleep around 11 to 14 hrs a day sometimes. I get the feelin this is why she feels she has to explain all this to SS. do you think this will help? Thanks!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly I know you asked for Habee but will your doctor write a letter. If your doctor is a specialist in the mental illness area, that could be very helpful. He can detail how certain medication make you sleepy and how depression makes you feel run down and you require down time during the day. Ask your doctor if he or she would help you. I had several of my doctors write letters on my conditions, how I changed over the three years of them treating me. When your doctors meet you and your 202 lbs and three years later your 143 lbs, they know something is going on. Just talk to your doctor face to face and explain what it's for. Most doctors dislike attorneys and don't want our government running the health system. Didn't mean to but in Habee, but the few doctor letters in my file I believe help with my hearing. Since I learned being honest and up front with my doctors they all supported me 100 percent. Also don't give social security the original copies, give them copies. Rememer, if you can't work an 8 hour day 40 hour week your disabled. If your doctors says your condition and the medication require to rest every few hours, you can't concentrate because your medication and you shouldn't driver or operate equipment you win. The vocational expert can try but medical documents don't lie. Good luck. Habee if I missed anything, fill in my mistakes.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      Hey guys . Just an Update. Yesterday i Received another Daily Activity Log. Going back through here first i figured would be best before filling it out. Unlike the 1st one i filed out very vauge. I have noticed that it is good to be very detailed. The first one i filled out was quick figuring they don't look at it. Like i had issues being around people because my anxiety increase. This time i gave examples. i.e. When i am around groups o people including family and friends i will lock myself in my room or in my car as i start hyperventilating and iritable. I no-longer can attend group functions or have family or friends over at the house as it makes it a very uncomfortable situation for everyone.!!!

      I did this for everything that has an affect on me. which was just about every question except 1. The only one that im still thrown off by is the one Number 1. Do you care for anyone other then yourself family parent other? I just put yes and no. I am the bread winner which is coming to a severecross road as my spouse has to take care of the children, me, and finances. All i provide is financial stability at the moment. Was that a good answer you think?

      I did not want to over exagerate anything but when it boils down to putting it all on paper it almost looks that way. there was still some stuff left out to add, i guess its sinking in now how exactly Disabled i have become. One of my soldiers he is 19 has high pride as I just arrived at the unit and i reffered him SSD. Just like me he doesn't understand how bad he actually is, but will now have him fill out this form , HEHE i made copies, and that it will put a real prospective on things. I hope this helps someone out. Will keep you all informed of the out come.

      Chily Good luck with the second CE! I wish you the best.

      Bogey Habee thanks again for all the great advice.

      Oh i also wrote a thank you letter to the congressman and his staff even though there is no outcome yet i am just extremely happy, as well as my family for even taking the time out of there busy schedule to look into this matter. I am going to send that out tommorrow along with the Daily activities form. ;P

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Rx7Mike, if your married I would put you are able to care for yourself but require assistance from time to time. Your wife takes care of things when your not able. I put no but I was recovering from surgery. They are going to ask you that several more times so try to explain why or why not. Medication makes you feel run down, side affects and so on. Social security just wants to see if you say one thing today and something different a year from now. You will fill out so many forms and receive some many forms you could start a paper recycle company when they finally find you disadled.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Ok, I made it to my spine and cervical bone appointment,I took my MRI reports and written report.The DR. seem nice he checked my arm and neck I had an x-ray on my right wrist something I did not expect, he asked many questions one of them was why have I not been trained to do something else I explained my symptoms and showed him my reports and films and also told him that I have a pending surgery that has not been authorized that's when he said oh ok now were looking at something different, so I guess my appointment was not going so well until I told him about the pending surgery and showed him my reports and films he said that it was good I brought them in because that's what counts and that they were important after that he said we were done and that the report would be in in about 10 days,So I think it went well after all. the fact that I took in my reports really helped so now I just wait and hope for the best soon.. Thanks again Habee & Bogey you guys have really offered some great advice I will update soon again hopefully with some good news!!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      The doctor shouldn't have asked you a vocational question. Don't worry about social security doctors. They are money sluts. They get paid $100.00 to see social security cases. Some of their doctors wouldn't stay open if they didn't have the extra cases. Remember, the doctor only writes a report, your case worker decides your case. Messed up, medical disability cases determined by people who barley made it through high school. Well good luck, let us know but don't read into anything social security does. It will only make you crazy. Also, they always tell you 10 days for one thing 30 days for another. In Miami, they can't meet a dead line. I haven't seen a penny and I won my case in August. I have lots of dates, packs of papers and my midicare card. They paid my attorney and my midicare premiums and they told me how much they owe me but no money yet. Hang in there. That's all we can do.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      Boget. I appretiate the info i sent the packets out yesterday. But as far as my wife having to take care of me if i stated the way you said would be the lie. I also recently under went surgury in march but the catch 22 is the surgury did not hold and also prgressed the injury worse, as now i have a sporatic twitch caused by a nerve impingment in my left arm under the subscapular muscle. So as far as showering and dressing without help i would be going to my once a day formation and appointments in my Birthday suit. LOL. :S . I was only able to give a couple examples but the same ones are also in my Med records. So they have back up.

      I was however informed that in the state of virginia that it no longer takes 18-24 months for an alj. It has been reduced drastically to 3-6 months. So hope i wont have to go that far but its a little better. As my PEB was submitted i will be out on my rear from uncle same in the foreseeable future near X-Mas of all things, But i am praying all goes well. Good luck Bogey and Chiley, ill be praying for you guys.

      Im pretty sure though without a decision before Holidays, I will have to look at other means for my family, Still covered under 400k Sgli 120days after discharge so got a little time. Family first. Love you guys appretiate all the help. I will keep you all posted on what happens next.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Not sure which states dropped the reconsideration stage but I read that several states did to speed up the process and because it doesn't work. Well Habee I received my first two checks. The first was for $250.00, in reference to President Obama's recovery bill and the second was my first monthly check. Now I just have to wait for my three years of back pay plus my wife and kids. Social security has a different answer as to why I'm still waiting but something is better than nothing. I hate to sound bitter but they make you wait so long and put you through so much stress, when you finally get your money it's like big deal. I wish I felt happier but it has been so long. Maybe when I get my big check and my family gets the rest I will feel different. Good luck to everyone, god bless America and all the brave men and women who fight for us.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      Congrats Bogey99. Wish you luck with your adventures.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I'm not going anywhere until everyone on this site gets all the help or advise they need to fight social security. Thank you for the kind words but we still have a lot of fighting to do. People shouldn't have to suffer to get what they deserve.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Hey bogey, spoke to my SS Analyst handling my case today. She was actually calling to confirm that I went to my bone & spinal appointment, I said yes and she said that she was sorry she had to send me for a second Dr.appointment but she needed more disability for my case so I've had to appointments a mental exam and spine bone appointment.She also said that the report should be in within couple days because the office I went to is pretty quick at turnning in reports,Anyways I thought I'd share that with everyone here. peace god bless!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly, it appears your case worker is at least going over your file and that's a good sign. Some of the case workers just want to get rid of cases yours appears to be conducting a complete investigation. Probably the doctor who reviews the files is requesting this but your case worker isn't allowed to tell you. The more medical evidence on your side the better. When I finally hired an attorney he was shocked, because of the amount of medical evidence. He knew I was only denied because of my age. Hearing judges don't like that reason. If your injured and can't work, your disabled. Keep us informed and if you have a question just ask:). Best wishes.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Yeah Bogey, Who ever is reviewing the reports needed more disabillity so this is why they requested another appointment.All she told me is that when she turned in the first report of my mental exam they said they needed a report from my bone and spinal,She never told me who but now I see that it's a Dr.who requested a second appointment. I thought the Analyst handling the case made the decision. anyways we'll see thanks again and god bless!! But wait this Dr. does not know me or know anything about my disabillity Wow this scares me!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly, the doctor is just paid by social security to review your file and do an exam. Once the doctor is finished they prepare a report of your codition and gives it to social security. The messed up part is even if the doctor they sent you to finds you disabled, your case worker can still deni you. It's all based on numbers and their crazy system. But in the end of my case two of social securities doctors supported my case because they found me diabled along with my doctors. The problem is you can't get their file until your denied and request a hearing. Even then it takes for ever and you need an attorney at that point. Hope you don't get to that part. Good luck.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      @cHILy Case in point. The CE Mental Health provider requested he wants tosee me afterward upon getting out of the service as i have a no so rare but severe case that he doent often see. Well he also treats children so i took him up on it a little and just saw him yesterday. Don't know if he is supposed to but he showed me his report that he sent back to DDS, Now i see why they didn't include his report with the denial notice. Basically he was in complete agreeance with my Doctors on base that although young but do suffer from extreme, extreme ...., extremme... , severe.., and it severly hinders my abilities. (replace ... with Ailments)He is also the same one who reffered me to obtain an attorney.

      After my childs appointment we spoke for about an hour i reveiwed his statement while son was in there. It had the basic questions and then the doctors notes section was 4 pages and another 6 pages with my primary doctors NARSUM for med retirement from the military attached. It contridicted everything that the socalled denied me for. One i win i cant wait to rip into !@#$%, !#$@%< , !##@%, @#$@^&#, and most importantly !#%@%!^&( replace !#@% with names of LIARS). Most importantly if you are just passing through these posts! Donot take My ranting as Bad Blood. There is great info on this Blog and great people im just like The Crazy Angry Uncle which everyone has.lol

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Rx7Mike, just hire a social security attorney from you city/county and let their office deal with all of social security's crap. I've been through it. I have seen my incomplete file, the doctor's lies and the error in my file, way too many to mention. That's why social security approves so many cases at the hearing level. It's the first time you get to see your file and give the judge all your medical reports.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      well bogey, I spoke to the analyst handling my case today. she says they reieved my report from the last appointment of my cervical bone spine. She has submitted it to her Dr. for review after that he will send it to the feild office where I applied and they will send me a letter with the decision so I guess it's out of her hands now does that sound proper to you? someone told me that when it is sent to the feild office it is already approved I don't want to believe that,So basically I will here from them sometime next week. So we'll see!! Thanks!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly from what I remember, the lady that handled my case while social security sent me to the doctor completes your file then it's reviewed by someone. The decision is probably made before it goes back to your original office but they won't tell you anything. Besides even when your approved, someone in your local office investigates your file and determines your monthly amount, plus any back pay. They see if you owe money or if you were receiving workers comp. So many things factor into the process. All that being said, the person you just finished with is just one of many who will work on your case. It's crazy, your file goes all over and it looked at by so many people. Just pray, the people with it are reading it. The correct thing would be one person starts your case and finshes your case. I don't understand why one person takes all your info, sends it to the medical section, sends it to the review portion, then back to your local office but a new person might have it know. Then if your approved it is sent all over for different people to sign it. That's how things get lost and mistakes happen. So hope that helps, even if the person your talking with made a decision, it would still need to be approved by someone higher up.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Bogey, I see what your saying I know I don't owe anything but I did receive workers comp from 2003 to 2007 and state dissability from 2008 to 2009 I don't understand why this will affect my case.will it? Thanks!!

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      My mistake I received workers comp from 2003 to 2007 I tried to work from 2008 to 2009 i collected state dissabilty benefits from 2009 to 09/2010. other than that I do not owe anything. will this be a problem?

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Chilly, those things can affect your case. Your case worker has to deduct your workers comp and certain earnings. They held my money for nearly 60 extra days to make sure I didn't receive any extra income, workers comp or SSI. I told them I didn't but they review everything.

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Yeah Bogey, The analyst handling my case told me last week she sent my case back to the office I originally applied with,So today I called the office spoke to the lady that I applied with originally and she said my case is still pending until I take them proof that I no longer receive Workers Comp or any other source of income.I told them I did not have any income at all so she asked for the letter Workers Comp sent stating when my WC payments stop. I have now found that letter in my files and will take it to them first thing tomorrow morning. like you said Bogey I think they are really paying attention to my case.Thanks again!!!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      That's good Chilly. Just keep good records of everything you give them and copies. They did the same to me. They refused to release my back pay until they conducted a second check to see if I ever received workers comp. Good luck. Hope you don't end up with files of social security reports. Don't forget to vote no November 02. Regardless of you party, it's your job as an American to VOTE. To many people die for that freedom. God bless them and their families.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Chilly, I think my letter to SS helped my case, and as Bogey said, your doc needs to write one, also.

      Bogey, so glad your money has started!

      Mike, sounds like you need a GOOD social secirity disability lawyer!!

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      I hear you there Habee. Last week i was told that my file was sent for fed review. Monday i called to verify and i was sent to the dds center. the case worker told me that she was waiting for my updated med records. I stated that i submitted them upon reconcideration and that it was 367 pages for the last 6 months. she stated all she received was 15 pages of the narsum for my meb board for medical retirement. so i spent 3hrs last night faxing them directly to her. Now i was unable to get them to her before 4pm when they were closed. I finished the fax about 730pm and she called me at 745 confiming receipt. Hope thats a good sign. I gave up hoping but it has weird way of playing out. Thank you guys for all your help.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      I'll be thinking about you, Mike!

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      Chilly 6 years ago

      Yeah Habee, I think a letter from my doctor will help but I am afraid it's too late since all there waiting for is proof that I do not receive any Workers Comp, I'm going now to take them that letter although I will ask my Dr. for this letter anyways hope it's not too late I think I've done as much as i can to support my case I wrote them a letter as well just like you recommended.I really think my Dr. visits went well I hope the outcome is in my favor.Thanks again Habee!!

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      I really hope so, too, Chilly!

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      Lisa 6 years ago

      Hi everyone, it is unbelievable what I am reading. It should not take this long. Well I look forward to hell, when I go for my very first appointment to apply on nov 3rd. I have migraines, ruptured discs in my neck and back, carpal tunnel, depression, and anxiety. We will see how it goes.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Hang in there, Lisa!

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      Lisa 6 years ago

      Thanks habee

      I am 51 so maybe that will help a little.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      How old are you Lisa. It's a stupid question but to social security they use age against you. Good luck as well.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Sorry Lisa. I saw you 51, that's a good thing. What type of work did you do before your injuries made you disabled?

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      Lisa 6 years ago

      You name it.....Cashier, Receptionist, Inspecting, Sewing, to Production line. And on top of everything, today I had an eye appointment. They told that there is some kind of blockage, and I may have to have eye surgery. Hopefully all goes well on Nov 3rd.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      Hey everyone Just an update.

      Oct 26 i had faxed a letter from my Phyciatrist to the same case worker. I was unable to speak with her but called today the 29th to verify that she received the statement. Had to leave a message. I just received a voice mail (weird phone didn't ring) so i was busy a little so i forgot. 30 min ago i saw y phone blinking and said oh voicemail hesitant to Rush and listen to it, bill collectors, family, a naked Unicorn from my dreams asking for a second chance, you name it.

      So i checked it. To my surprise it was the case worker. Hell Mr. NUTCASE, yes i did receive your statement from dr. TooMuchMakeup. I also wanted to inform you that a decision was made on your case on the 27th (1 Day after Dr. Letter) and you will receive a letter within 2 weeks. Hmmm i said, so i dropped the phone a little disgusted but faintly heard the message still going. So picked it back up. After that she stated that my case has been sent for review , reason being that the initial decision has been reversed and just to make sure that there are no mistakes as it is their procedure. I will hear something at 2 weeks may be sooner but just to hang in there for 2 weeks more. I dropped the phone in amazement. Listened at least 10 more times.

      Still not gonna get hopes up to much but I know they cant tell you what your decision is and she seemed really confident of that it will be ok. So keep you all posted on the future outcome play by play as it happens. Thank you all for your help guys.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      First Lisa that's good. Not to put you down but you half reduced social securities options. The higher your education B/S, Masters and other degrees give them more positions to try and place you. As far as RX6Mike, that sounds good. Trust me social security reviews everything over and over. Hope they get it correct. Hang in there. Lisa did you work most of your adult life. What I mean is I worked the same job for 20 years before getting injured. It looks better for you but it's not a written rule. As long as you worked long enough and have the credits your ok.

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      Lisa 6 years ago

      Yeah, I should have enough credits. Hopefully everything goes well.Thanks for the information.

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      Rx7Mike 6 years ago

      Well just waiting for DQB to return the decision. SSAFO verified that it was approved but has been sent to DQB in Atlanta for review.

      Been the starting 27 Oct. Just wowndering how long it will be there for the DDS caseworker told me 2 weeks SSAFO told me 2-3 months.

      Tick-Tock...

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Not to make you worry more but that's where my file was denied in Atlanta under review. Approved in my State then denied by some jerk who never spoke to me, examed me or talked to my doctors. The person just wrote my condition will improve and I'm young enough to do something else. I guess he and his ego have had to pull his foot from his mouth, since I not only didn't improve I had additional surgeries since his expert opinion. Good luck RX7Mike. All they want is to screw you. Thank god for hearing judges!!!

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      Lori Colbo 6 years ago from Pacific Northwest

      I just applied for SSDI about a month and a half ago. They told me not to expect any word from them for 3 to 5 months. This information was very helpful and I thank you.

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      Lori Colbo 6 years ago from Pacific Northwest

      I just applied for SSDI about a month and a half ago. They told me not to expect any word from them for 3 to 5 months. This information was very helpful and I thank you.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Lambservant, it depend on which city-state your in but you should contact them within a month to check on the status. Monitor everything, keep copies, names and dates if everyone you speak with. Most will say anything to get rid of you. Once in a while you will get someone who wants to help you. Never the less, do not trust anyone at social security. Keep us advised, this site can help in many areas of the disability process. Good luck with your health and you case.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Lambservant! Hang in there!

      Bogey, how ya been, pal?

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Ok. You changed your photo. I start physical therapy on Monday. Thank god I still have my Avmed since Medicare only covers 12 physical therapy appointments a year. What part of disabled does the government not get. Since getting Medicare I've had more problems than it's worth. What stinks is I pay for Avmed and I'm forced to use Medicare as my primary. One thing after another. Twenty years with Avemed, never one problem. Two months of Medicare, one problem after another. Bills being denied, medical procedures not covered and now physical therapy problems. Yet they were quick to take my co-payment and deduct a portion of my benefit each month. I thought Medicare was going to make things better. I wish I never had it. My Avmed is much better and covers everything. Oh well. Once again I see why most people don't want government run health care. I'm disabled and my family has better health care then me. I pay two deductables and for both Medicare and Avmed. Something is wrong with this. Well nothing I can do now. Hope you have a nice Thanksgiving, it just a few weeks away. Take care Habee and I'm trying not to complain too much, I just thought Medicare would help and the bottom line for me is It cost me an extra $1,600, a year and it has caused more stress so far than it's worth. Oh well, take care and keep posting.

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      Denise Handlon 6 years ago from North Carolina

      Excellent hub filled with lots of useful info, thanks. My nephew, whom I'm raising now, has an emotional disability and I'm quite sure will be unable to maintain a job. This coming summer will be a test regarding this. I'm hoping he will be able to find work so that I can monitor what the results are before pursuiting a SS Disability check.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, sorry to hear about your troubles. I hope you and your family have a blessed Thanksgiving!

      BTW, the girl in my avatar pic is my middle daughter.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Denise, I wish you the best of luck!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I think I got my Medicare/Avmed problem resolved. It is crazy how Medicare managed to screw me up in less then two months:). I have had various private health insurance companies over the past 22 years and still have Avmed for my family and me. My Avmed is not a supplement it's a real policy and now Medicare makes all my health care decisions. Wow! Anyways Avmed stood up for me and told Medicare I can choose and they will continue to provide for me since my policy is self funded not supplemental. Man! I have been going back and forth since September. Well I hope anyone who receives Medicare doesn't go through this. So enough of that. Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Glad to hear that, Bogey. I hope you and your family have a blessed Thanksgiving!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      I don't want to see anymore turkey for another year. I always eat until I feel like I'm going to explode. Then just to make it worse, I add more and then have pumpkin pie:). I'm not going to eat for three days. I hope everyone had a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. Now it's 5 days and nights of football. Life is good. Well at least this week is:). Now it's time for a Christmas Tree.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Bogey! My tree is up, and I have almost all of my shopping done!!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Hope everyone is doing well. I'm sure it's cold in Ga. Habee because it's cold in Miami. We are wimps down here. It gets below 60 and you would think were in the North Pole. Well just wanted to say hello to everyone and hope everyone enjoys the holidays.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Howdy, Bogey! It's been in the 20s here about every night this week, and Wednesday we had a few snowflakes!

      Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas!!

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      msheza 6 years ago

      Is it true that some states are easier to get approved in then others? I wouldn't think so since ssd & ssi are federal programs, but I have heard this several times so I'm curious if it's true...

      ~Michelle

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Msheza, that's what I've heard from others. It also depends on which worker your case is assigned to.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Maheza, I wouldn't say states are easier I would say the process is faster in some states then others. Every state has social security offices set up around each state. Some are very busy, so the waiting period is much longer. So it is actually different from city to city. The actual standard is the same. If you meet social security's strick standard of disabilty you will get approved. The bottom line is it's a federal program that is dirrerent from state to state and even worse from city to city. The difference is longer waiting periods because certain city/states have larger populations to assist. Good luck, hope this helps.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, how are ya? Hope you had a great holiday. Hope your 2011 is a lot better than your 2010, too! lol

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Still here fighting with Medicare or Medi we don't care. Everyday I get another bill that they denied. Thought I had this resolved, I guess 2011 will be a new fight. That's ok, I am the little train that could. Well to everyone dealing with social security good luck and becareful with Medicare. Hope everything is going well for you Habee and stay warm this crazy winter.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Bogey! this really is a crazy winter!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Habee it was 85 in Miami yesterday. We have been lucky this January, it has been mild. November and December was crazy. We had ten days where we had ice in the morning. We haven't had ten days of ice in the last ten years. You guys from Ga. North are living in a winter wonder land. Six more weeks until spring. Most of our farmers lost their crops in November/December. Well good luck and stay warm.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Bogey! It was 80 here yesterday. I love it!

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      Allen 6 years ago

      Hey Habee, Bogey and others. I'm a 41 year old male who drove tractor trailers from 1996 to 2006. I live in Ohio. I applied 2 times meaning going before 2 alj,s. The 1st was a video hearing in 2008 and the second was just 1-7-11 here in Akron, Ohio and even though the VE said I couldn't work, I was denied. The judge is 1 of the new judges that they just hired here in Ohio to deal with the backlog problem. They just put 2 new hearing offices in Ohio, 1 being in Akron where I am and the other in Toledo, Ohio. Anyway I was denied. 1 problem is probably that I used a firm who tricked me saying they were in Cleveland which is like 40 minutes from Akron. Also I never met with an attorney in person until the day of my hearing. What the "Cochran Disability Firm" did was hire an attorney from an entire different firm to represent me, the day of and 30 minutes prior to my alj hearing. Come to find out this attorney has only been an attorney for 2 years and he hardly said anything at the hearing. I have appealed to the appeals council thruough a local social security disability firm and will be filing all over again in March. These women are known for doing the impossible with ssdi/ssi and I wish I would have used them all the long. I have hepatitis c, osteoarthritis in the left knee, chronic groin pain (in pain mngmt over 3 years), sleep apnea (c-pap) machine, major depression (keeping all my appts. since 2006), bipolar 1, and severe sleep disorder. My meds are methadone(for pain mngmt.), I took interferon and ribivirin for 6 months to see if my body would rid hepatitis c and it didn't so my gastronologist said to continue on it is useless. I take Wellbutrin and Buspar, Lamictal, Remron, Geodon, Trazadone or either Ambien, all which are and have been prescribed to me for over 4 years. I have found out that is extremely important to have your mental health psychiatrist fill out an RFC and have your regular family doctor to schedule an RFC as well. I've heard this is how some people win on the 1st try because social security don't care about just DIAGNOSES, they want specifically the RFC forms which they will never tell you about. I feel pretty good about this new law firm because they gave me a professional folder/packet which included the RFC forms and my psychiatrist has already filled 1 out, and now I go on March 15 for the physical RFC. I wish I would've done these things before. Well pray for me that I won't have to wait as long for an approval. God Bless Amnerica, but more importantly, "America Bless God!" I can be e-mailed at allen_aur@yahoo.com.

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      Nicky Smart 6 years ago from United Kingdom

      I hope your correct.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Allen, stay strong! My prayers are with you.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Good to see you again, Nicky!

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      rama59 6 years ago

      Bogie......after seeing everything you went through, I see I may be in for a long haul. I am almost 60 and applied for SSI a year ago. I have glaucoma, rheumatoid arthritis, COPD, and suffer from anxiety. I am on oxygen 24/7 and have already lost my night vision. However, I was denied in December, 2010 and immediately filed an appeal. My problem is that I had lost my job in 2008 and the only medical treatment I get is at the ER because of lack of funds. I get my meds from friends and when I moved I took my oxygen tank with me and haven't paid for it either. Also, my glaucoma isn't being treated because I can't afford it. I called an attorney who only handles these cases but she wouldn't take my case because she said there is no money in it because if I do win, SSI doesn't have to pay past months because I am not getting treated. Any suggestions?

      BTW.....sorry you have had to go through so much with your case.

      habee.....what a wonderful thing you started.

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      Gordy 6 years ago

      I got a question to ask , How much money can you have if any affects your Social security benefits . What happens if you win the lottery or your parents pass away and left you a little money would your Social Benefits gets affected?. Thanks

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Rama do your homework on a local security attorney and get copies of all your medical records. Your age is going to help you. Just gather your records and get a doctor who is a specialist to document everything. Even your problems with not having the money to follow up with treatmens and medications. The bottom line a good attorney understands the system and what questions to ask your doctor. Social security will have doctors but they just review what your doctors are saying about your case. Good luck.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Gordy I don't know if having money makes a dirrerence. From what I understand it's based on how much you have earned over the years you have worked. However, I'm not an attorney and social security is always looking for a reason to turn people down. I would speak with an attorney in the social security field and get all the facts from a professional. Allen I'm sorry to hear your situation. So many social security attorney groups are full of sh t!!! I was in a situation like yours but I changed attorney groups before my hearing date. The only thing I can say is getting one judge to rule over another judge is tough. Also you will go before the same judge that denied you on you new hearing if you get one. The bottom line is don't give up. If you have to have your new attorney help you start from the beginning and file a new disability request. It sucks and will take a while but don't give up. Hopefully you will win your appeal and go forward from there. Best of luck.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Allen also your 41 years old. That's the same age I was when I became disabled. Social security loves to denie people under 50-60. Your conditions are more then enough to find you disabled and the VE was on your side. Remember with social security it's 8 hours a day 40 hours a week. You just had a bad attorney and the judge probably never received all your medical information to review. If your new attorney group is good they will get the proper medical documents to the judge in the order judges want them. Those little things make a big difference. My attorney told me judges like things certain ways. That's why a local attorney who knows the judges is very important. Again good luck.

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      DePuy Pinnacle Recall 6 years ago

      Thanks for all the information on this hub. This can be very helpful to everyone out there with disabilities. Though more research should be done to clarify the questions that people have been debating about.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @DuPuy. It is tough to answer some questions because each state, hearing office and social security case worker is different. Social security has a web site with rules and a list of automatic impairments but they don't follow those guidelines. The problem is we have a Federal program run different from state to state and city to city. In addition, some hearing officers/judges have very high approval ratings and some have very low. It is far from a perfect system. Just watch day time TV and see all the law groups advertising to help you fight social security.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      No new posts, hope things are going well for everyone. I check this web page several times a week and I'm sure Habee checks as well. Take care everyone.

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      teagal 6 years ago

      I'm hoping someone can answer my question. I applied for disability in January and got my approval letter two days ago.

      It states my checks will begin in August and that first check is for July?

      Will my SSI come sooner?

      Thanks?

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      teagal 6 years ago

      @ Bogey99

      Social security is not looking for ways to turn people down.

      If they get turned down there are several reasons why.

      You have to have an ongoing record with Doctors visits, hospital stays etc.

      You can't go to the Dr. once and be diagnosed with something and then you decide you're disabled.

      There has to be a history!

      Also, it depends greatly on age.

      If a 42 year were diagnosed with the same thing a 55 year old was diagnosed with, more than likely the 42 year old would be denied but the 55 year old would get approved.

      WHY you ask?

      Because a 55 year old will retire in 7 years! A 42 year old can be trained to do a different job. The 55 year old really doesn't have the time left to be trained with a new career.

      Lastly, you may think you are disabled but they have their guidelines they must go by.

      I know a person who needs a liver transplant. She has been denied several times. She goes out, she drives, she is active and so on.

      In her mind she is disabled but in reality, she needs a liver.

      If she doesn't get that liver, yes, eventually she will die but at this time she is not disabled.

      This of course depends solely on the disability.

      People without a limb claim to be disabled and I see a young man in a wheel chair working at Home Depot.

      He has a DISABILITY but he is NOT disabled.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @DuPuy. Check your local office. I recevied my monthly SS first then my back pay or lump sum. My back pay was held because they double checked that I was not receiving worker's comp or returned to work. Also they paid my Attorney before me.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @Tegal. Believe what you want. I have thousands of people who fight for what they deserve because social security has it's own standards. They turn disabled people down because of age, those were your own words. Disabled is disabled, what dose your age have to do with that fact. They do it over and over. The fact that you can be trained to pick tickets at a movie theater when your a trained firefighter is just great in social security's opinion. That's BS. I had 8 different doctors 2 surgeries, over 10 medicial procedures, MRI's, CT's, tests, physical therapy and was found disabled by my jobs retirement and Met Life. I had the same job for over 20 years and lost over 100 thousand dollars becoming disabled. I understand social security handles tons of cases and they just want to move cases but help the people who deserve it. I'm not on this site because I'm not receiving my disability and angry. The system is wrong. Age is a major consideration and it shouldn't. You are disabled or you not yet social security will do anything to find a way out in too many cases.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @Tegal. Believe what you want. I have thousands of people who fight for what they deserve because social security has it's own standards. They turn disabled people down because of age, those were your own words. Disabled is disabled, what dose your age have to do with that fact. They do it over and over. The fact that you can be trained to pick tickets at a movie theater when your a trained firefighter is just great in social security's opinion. That's BS. I had 8 different doctors 2 surgeries, over 10 medicial procedures, MRI's, CT's, tests, physical therapy and was found disabled by my jobs retirement and Met Life. I had the same job for over 20 years and lost over 100 thousand dollars becoming disabled. I understand social security handles tons of cases and they just want to move cases but help the people who deserve it. I'm not on this site because I'm not receiving my disability and angry. The system is wrong. Age is a major consideration and it shouldn't. You are disabled or you not yet social security will do anything to find a way out in too many cases.

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      teagal 6 years ago

      @ Bogey

      Yes, I said SS turns people down who are younger! WHY? Because they are not disabled. They can be retrained. Big difference.

      If a person say 42 years old was a rocket scientist, they wouldn't expect that same person to take tickets. They would be trained to do something that would pay the same as what they were accustomed to.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Tegal did you go through the entire process, appeals and hearings? I did. My attorney is a retired social security judge. You don't know what you are talking about. If they can find any work for you they will find you not disabled. Even if that job does not exsist in your living area. The higher your education the more work they will try to find you. What does that have to do with being disabled. I had my hip replaced, eight screws with two rods in my back. For two years I have been under doctors orders not to lift, bend or twist. I was in bed for almost four years and taking medications that says avoid driving. I was denied. Funny when I went before a hearing judge she took about 5 mins to find me disabled and she had a doctor sitting next to her. She said I was disabled for the day I was injured. She also said she was sorry social security did what they did to me. This site is to help people not debate the system. I know there are more people who agree with my view then yours. I'm happy you won but a persons age and education should have nothing to do with being injured and disabled. Yes some people can still work but work means 40 hours a week 8 hours a day. Most cases are denied by case workers with no medical experience and they are just paper pushers. I do understand some people are just looking for a free ckeck but a case worker with investigation skills should figure that out. To answer you social security will find any job for you. They don't care about the pay difference. You are so wrong. Ask any social security attorney. If you can clean widows you can work. They don't care if you work for NASA before building rockets. The vocational experts will try to place you anywhere.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Thanks, Rama. My prayers are with you!

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Depuy, Bogey is right. So much depends on the state, the office, and the individual case worker. I realize that seems odd for a federal agency, but it's true.

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      Holle Abee 6 years ago from Georgia

      Teagal, Bogey is right. SS isn't concerned with your former income. If you can do ANY type of work, they consider that you're not disabled.

      As for SS looking for ways to turn you down, I think that's often true, too. I have a friend who's in the process now. All her docs, including an otrhopedic surgeon and an orthopedic hands specialist have documented that she has severe damage in both hands, along with other problems. In fact, the hands specialist said her hands were, and I quote, "totally destroyed." There are x-rays and nerve tests to back up the findings. SS sent her to an osteopath - not even an MD - who said there was nothing wrong with her hands. The osteopath was THEIR doctor. Doesn't that seem a little suspicious to you?

      I don't think all SS offices and all SS caseworkers are like that, however. I think that's one of the confusing aspects of SS - the consistency. It often seems that there are no "hard and fast" rules. I know of a couple of folks who got their SS disability approved easily, yet they seem healthy, while others who are genuinely unable to work are denied.

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      floridagirl2011 6 years ago

      I've enjoyed reading this hub and congratulate those who have been successful and wish those still going through the process all the luck! Here are a few of my comments and observations regarding the Social Security Disability system.

      I'm a 39 year old female living in....you guessed it...Florida! I was approved for SSDI in 5 months on the first try, without an attorney. I don't want to get into specifics about my medical conditions but I was born with a hereditary disease that affects my musculoskeletal system. The disease has progressively gotten worse over time. I have a college education and have mainly done sedentary work on and off throughout the years holding my last job over 5 years. I've always had chronic pain but it has intensified over the past year and pain medication has been somewhat ineffective for various reasons. My ability to accomplish basic household tasks has diminished greatly, although I am still able to so some household tasks with modification.

      People think if they meet a listing in the SSDI "Bluebook" they will automatically be eligible for SSDI. That is only part of it. There is a 5 step process but many applicants only need to get through the first 3 steps. The SSA website outlines all the steps quite nicely. In order to be approved for SSDI you not only need to have a condition in their "Bluebook" but that condition must limit your daily activity to the degree in which you cannot work an 8 hour day 5 days per week. You also need to have a history of obtaining medical care.

      Here are my tips on applying for SSDI (I think SSI is harder to get).

      1. seek consistent regular medical care for your conditions.

      2. visit several specialists for 2nd and 3rd opinions.

      3. save all your medical information and keep a calendar or spreadsheet as to when you visited each doctor.

      4. Apply online. Do not rush the application process to get it done quickly. Spend a few days or a week on it. You can save your work and go back later to fill in more information.

      5. Be honest. Don't over exaggerate or underplay your conditions.

      6. Be consistent. ALWAYS!

      7. Do not leave anything blank! Print copies of everything you fill out for your records.

      8. Make it easy for them by providing all your doctors names (not just your primary doctor but anyone you have seen even if it was just once). Include addresses and phone numbers. (I did not submit any medical records myself, just the names, dates, addresses, phone numbers of ALL doctors from the past 15 years!)

      9. Read through the SSDI policy thoroughly on the SSA website prior to applying even if it takes you a couple of weeks. Take notes!

      10. THIS IS IMPORTANT: When filling out pain questionnaires or any other questionnaires that relate to your ability to function in daily life be concise and give examples. Do not be vague in your answers!

      I hope I told you something you didn't already know!

      Good luck and be well!

      Floridagirl2011

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @Floridagirl2011, thanks for your advise. Every bit helps. Most of us are not here to bash social security. We just are cofused as to why they have set rules and a five step process but in so many cases they don't follow it. In my case I meet 3 areas of the list of impairments but I was denied. When I went to my hearing the judge and doctor present looked at me and said we are sorry. I don't want other people to suffer for years like I did. Social security sent me to a childrens doctor, I have a spine and hip condition. The social security doctor wrote that she performed tests that would have been impossible for me to do since I was two months post op for a hip replacement. I don't want to call a doctor a liar, maybe she got my case cofused with another person. Never the less, this site is here to help and every case is different. Hope you feel better. The one thing I found out is the money is nice but it didn't make my pains go away. Once again best wishes.

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      floridagirl2011 6 years ago

      Hi Bogey,

      I read your comments on your case and it sounds like they really messed up on this one. That's great that it finally worked out!

      I think there are some thorough and empathetic claims analysts and some that are callous and don't understand what people with disabilities go through on a daily basis. I think when you get a good one you have a better chance of being approved the first time around. It's a real shame it has to be this way because I understand the stress of fighting the system as I repeatedly have to do with my private long term disability insurance company. Stress definitely makes the pain way worse.

      Maybe it would behoove the Social Security Administration to train their employees on what it means to live with a disability and how very important it is that they get their analysis correct the FIRST time they get the claimants application in their hands!

      I'm sure there are people who abuse the system but overall, who would choose this life and that little check and a life of isolation at home! Most of us would prefer to feel awesome and out working and going to happy hour after work with our co-workers! I know I would!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @Floridagirl2011. Thank you and it's like I've said, this is not about bashing social security it's about getting information to people to help them with dealing with social security. Our problem is every state and city is different when deciding disability. It's a federal system with set rules and steps. It seems they are viewed different in too many cases. That is something that needs to change. My other issue is the age process. A disability has nothing to do with age but in social security's world it is a major reason for so many people who are disabled being denied. Maybe one day that can change. Thank you for your reply and good luck with your health.

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      Paul 6 years ago

      I have been turned down twice and now waiting for the hearing hopefully this summer. I have a disability attorney and I am 55 years old. I have chronic lower back pain, including a degenerative disk and arthritis in the lumbar and neck. I am also clinically depressed and see a therapist at the local VA clinic every month. I also have advanced HIV-was diagnosed in 1996. Is it true if you are 55 with these problems and have an attorney, my chances are pretty good at winning before a judge? Do you have any thoughts? My HIV MD treated me for over 8 years and was very cooperative in filling out that questionaire for my attorney and SS. I hope that helps my case. Plus I have made sure all my medical records and therapists notes are sent to my attorney. I enjoyed your article very much!

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @ Paul. If your attorney is a local attorney from your area your odds go way up. Two reasons, he or she probably knows all the hearing judges and what they want and will be able to get all your medical records in order for you easier. Good luck, your age should help you as well. Back disabilities are hard cases to prove but you have other issues as well.

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      rhonda 6 years ago

      i have a lawyer helping me with my ss i have been denied twice i have osteoperosis, astma, my neck and back are curvered they call that scolosis and someone told me that the third time is the charm i also started a new application i just wonder do you think i have a chance

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      Rhonda there is no guarantee. If your attorney is a good social security attorney from you area you chances are better. He just needs to prove you can't work an 8 hour day 40 hours a week. Your medical records must support this. At the Hearing a vocational expert will try to find some type of work for you. There will also be a social security doctor. This doctor will review your file and the judge may ask the doctor questions. The judge and this doctor work together on medical cases so the judge will put more credit with this doctor and your doctors then the original social security doctor who saw you when you filed your case. As far as a new application that's just going to make your case start over. Are you sure it's not an appeal? Well I wish you good luck.

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      mylindaelliott 6 years ago from Louisiana

      Wonderful article. I tell the parents I work with to keep a copy of everything. Make a copy of your copy for Social Security but don't give them yours. The workers there really are overworked and underpaid. Anything that can be brought in by you saves them time in making determinations. Of course if you can get the documentation yourself. I have some parents of children with disabilities that need help doing that.

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      Bogey99 6 years ago

      @Mylindaelliott. I can't express how making copies and keeping of all your medical records, films, MRI'S and Doctors notesc is so important. I made a file and take it to all my appointments. First it helps me fill out the doctors information reports because all my medications are there and every test ever conducted is available for the doctors. Some of my doctors have even made copies of my file to add to their file. I also request a copy of my doctors report after every visit. That usually takes a few days and sometimes they charge me for copies but it's worth it because social won't pay for copies or over look some doctor visits. After my surgeries I requested my sugeons reports as well as the hospitals reports. One reason is so many doctors see you in the hospital and your on so much medication, you can't

      remember what treatments you received. Now these reports are expensive and 90 plus pages

      but again worth every penny. One last point, make sure your honest with your doctors and

      your main doctor believes in you. On my last visit, I told my Nuroligist that I don't understand

      why some days I feel ok and have energy to do things then I have days where I can't do

      anything. His response to me was, that's how I know someone I'm treating is being honest.

      He said, when someone tells me they can't do anything and they are always in pain he feels

      they are not being truthful. He said it's normal to have good days and bad days. On your good

      days you will do to much and cause your bad days. This made sense to me and made him

      believe in me. Also having true medical evidence, Cat Scans, MRI'S, Physicaly Therapy,

      Medical Treatments and Surgeies. They can't be disputed. Just keep copies and make sure

      social security has a complete file. When I went to my social security hearing my file was

      incomplete. My attorney knew how to prepare my file so the judge would accept it and make it

      easy for her to review my entire medical history. I guess my main point is be organized and

      don't expect anyone to gather you records for you. Your attorney will but he or she will charge

      you, so if you already have the records all they have to do is make copies.

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      Marc Whitehead (disability lawyer in TX) 6 years ago

      I just want to say that I hope none of you ever give up. Please get a lawyer that you trust and keep fighting for what is right.

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      Peg Cole 6 years ago from Dallas, Texas

      Thanks for this insightful article. I have a friend who is fighting this battle right now and I'm forwarding your hub link to him. Good information.

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      Amez 5 years ago from Houston, Texas

      Excellant Hub and great Information. I'm retiring and wasjust approved for Plan A (Hospital Costs),B (Dr Visits and thier Charges)and D (Precriptions) Medicade covered B and D. But it seems the Goverment is going to change the entire Program even though most of us paid for it over the years we were employed. I hope one day they find themselves standing in our line at Social Security.

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      Bogey99 5 years ago

      To anyone with Medicare or Medicade check you area and look into supplemental policies. It me be a few extra dollars a month but one stay in the hospital or a condition that requires expensive lab tests could cost you thousands out of pocket. I have Avmed and Medicare parts A & B. My Avmed covers prescriptions and everything Medicare doesn't. My friend only has Medicare parts A,B & D. He had some health issues a few months back and he ended

      up with thousands of dollars in bills.

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      Laura 5 years ago

      Anyone know of a disability attorney in South Florida?

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      Bogey99 5 years ago

      Lyle Lieberman, 305 358-0115. He is a former Social Security Judge. He has a reputation of only taking legitimate cases. He is very fair and has more experience dealing with the system then any attorney in South Florida. I don't get paid to refer attorneys, I'm just here for advise. You can say you received his name form this site or David Cohen. He was refered to me and it was the best thing that ever happened. I had a previous attorney group and they only wanted my money. I'm sure he has a web page. Good luck.

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      Valerie Washington 5 years ago from Tempe, Arizona

      Great hub! I am awaiting a decision on SSDI now. I am currently on long term disability from my employer. I have high blood pressure, dilated cardiomyopathy, arthritis in my spine, carpal tunnel syndrome, migraines, numbness in legs and feet when I sit as well as major depression and anxiety disorder. This is my second time applying for SSDI and I did get a lawyer this time. I should know in about another month so wish me luck!

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      Aunt Louise 5 years ago

      I just applied for disability a week ago. I think I presented my case well but there is always a little doubt. This is a wonderful site and so helpful.Thanks for starting it and sharing your experience with all.

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      Bogey99 5 years ago

      Good luck Stayingalivemama and Aunt Louise. Fight to the end and beyond!

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      MegD154 5 years ago

      thank you so much for this article. I am going through a similar situation (neurological, chronic pain, blood pressure, etc) and it has been helpful to read all these comments and get very helpful information. starting the process for disability benefits has been challegning so I decided to get some help. i just started working with HFI advocates and so far they have been terrific. Best of luck to you all and stay strong!

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      Valerie Washington 5 years ago from Tempe, Arizona

      booohooo, they denied my SSDI, I guess I have to be barking up a lung to get it......

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      Valerie Washington 5 years ago from Tempe, Arizona

      and yes...i'm appealing it....3rd times a charm!

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      I just filed about a month ago. Medical records were too old. I'm filing for mental health problems. They sent me to have a psychological test done. She told me at the very least, she thought I'd get a medical card. Just wondering if they will send me to any more doctors or if her report is in my favor, will that be all they need? Do you automatically get a medical card if you are approved? I know I really need help but I'm in a small town and there are no free clinics here. Hoping I don't have to get an attorney but seems every one else does.

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      frustrated 5 years ago

      i was just denied ss today. i am beyond upset. i'm 32 and in the past two years have battle thyroid cancer and stage 4 breast cancer. in my breast reconstruction surgery they found more cancer in my chest and the operation became 16hrs instead of 10 which lead to nerve damge in my whole left arm. so, now i'm back on chemo again (and have major chemo brain) and messed up on narcotics to lessen the nerve damage pain. how was i denied? everything is documented in my medical records. ss sent me to their own doctor to discuss my mental confusion and her questions were ridiculous: who is martin luther king jr? who was sherlock holmes? i answered honestly and correctly. there is nothing wrong with my long term memory. i'm becoming depressed.

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      nokomis57 5 years ago from California

      habee & Bogey99,

      Thank You for the excellent reading and for helping others fight SSA/SSI. This is the best site/page I have been to, per SSA/SSI. Excellent advice, and loads of important information, regarding SSA/SSI. Very Very helpful, but SOOOOOOOOOO much NEEDED. I too, fought many years per my SSA. I had to file an appeal, then another appeal, then go to the SS Office, as they too, lost all my Records (From their hands to the trash can so to speak). I too, denied over four times. I did find a SSA lawyer in the San Rafael area. The best SSA, lawyer to date, in my area. SSA case 1991 ~ to present, I have received a Beautiful Christmas card from my lawyer. I send him one as well. So Blessed with him, for all he's done for me. He goes up and beyond ~ to help many many Disable persons. Everything you have stated, I too, have been through. At times it can be very VERY Unbearable, Stressful, Emotional, etc., list goes on!! Feel as there's no light at the tunnel. Again, I would like to THANK YOU, for all you do for others. I love this site/page. You have what most people don't and that is HEART!! I will log off line for now. Have a peaceful, enjoyable, and stress-free day/year : ) Much Respect to you and yours. Thanks AGAIN : )

      nokomis57

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Bogey! How ya been? I've been kinda out of the loop. A chest x-ray showed fluid around my heart, and my doc thought for sure I had congestive heart failure. An echo shows that I don't, but the docs still don't know what the fluid is/was.

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Thanks, Paul. It sounds to me like you have a strong case, but you know how it is with getting Social Security disabilty approved. Just hang in there!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Rhonda, best of luck to you! Keep us informed!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Mylinda, thanks for your response and tip!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Marc, good words to live by! I've heard of folks being denied Social Security Disability and giving up much too easily. That's easy to do, especially when you already feel bad and are in pain and under stress. That's when a disbility lawyer can come in very handy! lol

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Peg, thanks for passing the info along!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Amez, that would be really fair! Some people don'tunderstand how frustrating it is to want to work but can't.

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Stayingalive, don't give up or lose heart. Let us know your outcome with SSDI!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Aunt Louise, you're more than welcome! I'll be praying for your good news!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Meg, sounds like you need some help! Stay strong!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Dazee, I'm sorry, but I don't know the answer to your question. Maybe Bogey will stop by and address it!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Frustrated - that's terrible! I can't imagine how you were denied Social Security Disability. If you're denied on appeal, get a disbility lawyer. Good luck!

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      Bogey99 5 years ago

      Still here Habee. Hope your health they figure it out. I had something similar in 2008. They found a spot on my lung before surgery. Had cat scan, they sent me to a Pulmonary doctor. He said it may be cancer. Had to wait six month for further tests because my insurance wouldn't pay because I was not a high risk patient. I didn't smoke. Well six moths later it was still there but it didn't grow so I hand to come back in a year. Again, because I'm not a high risk patient. Well in the beginning of 2010, cat scan and ex-ray taken and the spot was gone. All that stress for nothing. Thank god!

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      Bogey99 5 years ago

      Dazee once social security approves you you will receive medicare within a couple months. It's the first thing they send you. As far as the doctors, they tell everyone they are going to approve you because they don't want a fight inside the office. Try to get copies of your records and doctors statements. Keep a file just in case your denied you can go see and attorney and file your appeal. Remember you only have 60 days to appeal. Don't give up! Keep records, and keep seeing your doctors. If you don't have insurance go to the hospital. They have to treat you and they keep records.

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      Bogey99 5 years ago

      To those who were denied, I know how you feel. I was approved, denied and denied on appeal. Get an attorney! My case before the Hearing Judge lasted ten minuetes. I was finally approved after almost three years. Just remember. Social security violates it's own rules. That's why 70 percent are approved at the hearing level. If you have a condition that is likely to last twelve months, lasted twelve months or prevents you from working 8 hours a day 40 hours a week. You are disabled under social securities definition. Keep fighting and good luck.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      If they deny my claim, I plan on hiring an attorney. Does anyone know a good one from the northern part of West Virginia? I'm 50 miles from Pittsburgh. Where they sent me was not really a doctors office. It was a psychologist office. The place seemed to do testing for employment too. I didn't really question them about that though. Someone on another forum told me that the psychological test will have no bearing on my claim and they will deny me. I don't really want to go into everything that is wrong but it keeps getting worse.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Just wondering if you know if Social Security will provide me with a copy of the report from the psychologist?

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Adam......I started punching a time clock at age 14, I wouldn't wish my problems on anyone, so I hope you never have to walk in my shoes.

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      Valerie Washington 5 years ago from Tempe, Arizona

      Adam,

      Let me first say that I am clenching my teeth right now to hold back the rage I am feeling at reading your comment. So let me do this nicely...I have "punched at time clock" as you say since I was 15. I have always worked, I have always been able to make ends meet. NOW, I am diabled...yes, I suffer from depression, anxiety, arthritis, carpal tunnel and a heart condition with an uncontrolled irregular heartbeat...oh and did I mention that I have asthma and COPD?

      Well, I have applied for disability twice and THEY don't think 'm disabled..Never mind the fact that some days (like the last two days) I couldn't even pull myself out of bed, or that I have panic attacks..or that I have shortness of breath when I walk, even talk. How DARE you say that I and others are trying to soak up government funds. Do you REALLY think that I would rather be at home supporting my family with $18K instead of making the $35K I had earlier this year.

      I hope, yes, I really hope that you don't get into a tragic accident and not be able to go back to work, or that someone you know is suffering from a mental disease and can't get the help they need. Hey, better yet, let's hope you don't give any pep talks to disabled people at all. Uh, well, best of luck to you...I think.

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      cindyk 5 years ago

      Oh Adam, I am so sorry for you. I pray that neither, nor a loved one ever find yourself in need. It is sad that so many vital people get struck down by a debilitating situation. What is mor sad is the people that are so calloused they have no compassion. I understand there are people that take advantage, but to take down those in need that deserve help is inexcuseable. There is a God, and I hope He shows you more compassion and understanding than you are willing to extend to your fellow man.

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Adam sounds angry. I have all of the aforementioned illnesses Adam. You can also add Renal Cell Carcinoma of the left kidney in 04, Non Hodgkin's Lymphoma (they tell me I won't survive this one) 05, precancerous mass in 2000, not to mention the number of illnesses I have contracted from taking care of people as an RN for the past 35 years. I haven't even began to tell you of all the problems, illnesses and disorders I have , bowel resection due to cancer last year and 4 days later a cerebral hemorrhage,followed up with a large arachnoid cyst found on my brain that has been causing lightheaded episodes and falling, since a week after the nephrectomy breaking right ankle, a month later left tibia and fibula came through the leg when I broke them.

      I have sat and cried, despaired, prayed, comforted ,and attempted to make each of my patients laugh at least once a day. I have had more bosses tell me on admission,"this one is a VIP or Medicaid" only to hear me reply "They'll get my best as always, don't care if they can pay cash or never pay" My job was to give the best to EVERYONE.

      Next to my family nursing was my great love.I never dreamed it would spiral out of control as it has. I fully expected and looked forward to making it to 66. I worked for the last 13 years with all of the above,and with the exception of Chemo,hospitalizations, a high fever or couldn't walk did I ever miss work because of the pain.

      I am 62 years old and my time is limited.I asked my doc to change all the many medications I am on daily to ones that will cost the least and do the as good as they can.

      We are very frugal and were raised that to be just that. I am grateful for my life , yes grateful because I now have more compassion for others much worse than me and even those not as bad as me.

      You don't seem to understand if you have earned a living all of your life as a secretary, and you have carpel tunnel in both hands, it's hard to relearn a new job at a certain age.

      I hope you will always be healthy but I have an idea you aren't or why would you be on this site. If you are in need I hope and pray you get help but please don't judge others. You have no idea what their lives are like unless you have lived with what they have.

      If you are a young man you have a real surprise in store for you, if you are older, then shame on you.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Seems Adam is just angry at the world. Yes there are lazy people who want a free check. This site is to help people who are disabled and once made a living working and paying taxes. I went from working and earning well over a $100,00.00, a year. Why would I want $2,500.00, a month? Take your anger to another web site. We are here to help dialed people not scammers. To all who need assistance or just to vent, we are here for you. God bless you and America.

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Guys, I removed Adam's post because I, along with others, felt that he was being disrespectful to the group.

      I welcome constructive criticism, but I felt his comments were out of line.

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      JJ 5 years ago

      I was receiving SSDI and about 7 years ago I went back to work. I was making over 60k but I can't do it anymore and have been out of work for several months. Will the process be easier to this time if I apply again?

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      sophia 5 years ago

      wow, i was just reading alot of your posts.... first thank you "Habee" for starting this site... what a blessing... as others said, wish i had seen it months ago :)

      and also hats off to "Bogey".....You two make a great team !!!

      WEll, my question is, i applied in jan. and didn't know much about ss. I thought like others, i have so much against me, there is no way I would be denied. NO way... Prayed every night.. I received my letter in June, leary to open, and I did, and I saw the words, " disapproved claim"... OMG... I fell to pieces !!! when friends of mine had gotten it, and less wrong with them.. i was devastated... I drove to my daughters in histarics, b/c i knew my husband would flip... I was beside myself... basketcase, lol..... Worked all my life age 16 to 50 1/2. Never asked for a penny from any gov't... WEll my question is, i do have a lawyer now, but she is slowwwww... i do have the proper documentation, and have a huge notebook full of all my info, i request copies of all tests, i have all dianosis, and there meanings, and how they affect me, and i appealed it that night... so how long will this appeal take?????? i used up all my available funds... except a annuity thru a pension board, that even my lawyer could not touch for me. never get a annuity... rock solid to touch, even clark howard says that.. i thought about going over my attorney and taking my last test results to ss office... good idea or not??? as i read that they will expedite your claim if u have proof and provide all info and a letter.. please answer..... thanks for a great site............

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Sophia the appeal system is based on the area of the country you live. In South Florida it was about 18 months from being denied to going before a Hearing Judge. Your attorney should be able to give you a time line. They know how long the appeal process takes in the area they handle cases. Also is this your first denile or second. You don't see the Hearing Judge until your second denile. Don't give up. That's what they want. Your age is going to help you. You can also review SSDs web site and review the list of impairments. From what I learned, they approve over 70 percent at the Hearing Level. The first level they only approve about 15 percent. Second level 30 percent. Too many people give up. As far as taking reports to your attorney, that's fine. I sent them everything I could to save money. Your second denile is about 3-6 months. The Hearing Judge is the longest part. Good luck! Keep us posted.

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      sophia 5 years ago

      BOGEY- this is my 1st denial... They skip a step in our state, i think its called "reconsideration" step... i think... but my attorney told me we would go in front of a judge.. she said some are nice, some are down right rude... she hoped we got a nice one.. me too, lol.....

      my attorney was just getting all info i had already submitted myself to ss... then i was denied.. but after reading alot like uns all did, i saw alot of mistakes i made, and i did not have a dr. statement.. have you ever received a letter similiar to this one from ss...

      "Please complete the enclosed questionnaires regarding your recent medical tx, medications, & work history to expedite the processing of your hearing request".....if u have more evidence to present, please submit it promplty.... this was july 8th 2011....AFTER the DENIAL LETTER...i live in pa....i do have conditions under the list of impairments... just ss thought they would not last 12 months or more. when they are lifelong, and only treatable, not curable... and not a full quality of life now....

      let me know what u think of the above letter i received... that was about all it said... i overnight mailed my current updates to my attorney friday.. so they should have mon. since weekend.. and i will give them a few days... they told me a timeline of 3 months to a year... it's been 3 months now since denial... but they also gave me some falso info, which i called them on, as they do get paid, and that was a big let down of me getting a faster trial... my attorney told me that ss only expedites under 3 catagories... 1) eviction from home 2)terminal illness 3) suicidal......... but i did get that letter from ss.. (which i forgot to send to my attorney as i had met her in june)so i sent that on fri. also....... sorry so long a reply.... complicated issues ss is, huh.... :((((( please respond when u have time, and have a great weekend... you and habee should start a business.... seriously :))) ps.... backpay- is it from time u applied, or time of disability??? and do u get it all in one sum, or do they divide it up?????? thanks so much.......its less stress having someone to chat with.....

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      sophia 5 years ago

      one last thing.... i am a patient person, but a very broke person, on the verge of bankruptcy for my bills... it's my other half who is not patient, and only willing to pay some of my important bills....but being pennyless is getting old, and i am used to buying things for residents i adore, and now i can't... anyhow, my question was- i have not talked with ss since denial... as i was a mess... i would like to talk to them, but this will sound dumb, i don't know what to say when i call... what do i start out with???? i know dumb question, but they make me nervous... as my 1st case worker was not thorough, and missed alot that we discussed, as it was not on my paper work i received back...

      thanks again..................................:)

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      sophialouise 5 years ago from pa

      i want to save this hub, but it keeps saying i have no hubs saved, not sure how i do that... habee???? sorry :((((

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Sophia...do they send all the paperwork back to you with the denial or did you have to request it to receive copies?

      I'm still waiting to hear on mine. I am going to be 52 and have been widowed for over 7 years. I don't know if that will make a difference or not.

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      sophia 5 years ago

      DAZEEBLUE- HELLO, i had to request the paperwork....i wasn't going to, until, i started reading the denial letter, and there reasons for it.. and some was not true... so i had called and asked, and they sent it.. it took awhile to get it.. but mostly it was just all the jibber i filled out on line when applying..

      my mistake, well one of them, was i would call and tell them updates, but i never had it in writing...

      so you should have everything in writing, make copies of all, and send it,and date it,and then your covered...then you can still call, but at least you know it's in writing, and not forgotten... my case worker forgot alot, and was hard to get ahold of.. disappointed in her...

      i was told if i would of had a lawyer when applying, and had all the paperwork, then my chances of being denied were slim, due to my health... a lawyer does not get paid until you win... so they want u to win... in my state anyway, lol....i wish u luck and will pray for you....

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Sophia. I did read that some states were going to skip the second stage because it just delayed the process. That's good news for you. I had to go through all the stages before my hearing date. That should speed up your case. When you get your court date your attorney will know your judge's reputation. Also you can look up your judge and see their approval rates. Don't get worried over that. My judge had the third lowest approval rating in the nation. After you go through the process you will see why. I saw a lot of people who were not disabled when I had my hearing. Women dressed like they just came from a night club. A guy pushing his wheel chair, then using it inside the building and so on. If your attorney prepares your file in order the judge will review everything. The judge will also question you and a real doctor will be in the room or listening on a speaker. As long as your doctor supports your disabilities and is a board certified doctor you should be fine. I had 8 doctors and my neurologist gave a sworn disposition explaining my condition. Social Securities doctor not only agreed he rated me more disabled then my own doctor. If your consistent with your testimony and your doctor agrees it makes your case very strong. As far as your payment. You get back pay from the time you became disabled minus six months. That's a lump payment. You also get a monthly check, based on your earnings. You may also get Medicare. My hearing was in late August and my first monthly check came in October. My lump sum came in November. They hold your lump sum to pay your attorney and any workers comp. I hope that explains the process. Your lucky about not having the reconsideration stage. That's going to save 6-9 months of waiting. Good luck. Let us know when you get your date.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Just to let you guys know. When I met with my attorney he requested Social Securities records. We found a lot of errors in the medical evaluation, missing records and I don't want to say they were liars but some of the things they wrote never happened. Even after I was approved I had to fight with my case file worker over things she said were not complete. She wasn't very happy when I pulled out copies of her errors and pointed them out to her supervisor. I kept everything. I just wish I recorded our phone conversations. They will lose your records and blame you. Just stay on them!

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Sophia if talking with your attorney makes you feel better call them. They understand what your going through. I understand how you feel. I have been in your situation. It's not fun to have no control over your future. It's worse when Social Security makes you feel like a liar. Everyone has a point where they can't take being knocked down anymore. Feel free to vent here as well. Just remember your attorney is probably in court everyday. I would just leave a message to speak with them. I'm sure once they get everything from Social Security they will want to see you and interview your doctor. Just remember, Social Security takes forever to send your file to your attorney. Best question might be, have you received my file from Social Security yet? Just try to stay positive and strong.

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      sophialouise 5 years ago from pa

      thanks so much bogey... what exactly do you mean by "minus 6 months"..... and part of the letter i showed ya, did u ever see any like it, or have one yourself???

      thanks so much for such great support.. i truely mean that.....

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      nyfoodstampmama 5 years ago from Profile page

      Good writing. This is very informative!

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      Valerie Washington 5 years ago from Tempe, Arizona

      thanks!

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      sophia 5 years ago

      i was hoping bogey or habee would answer my above question.. what is the minue 6 months, and have u ever received a letter like mine, saying to expedite... thank you........

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Sophia. If you became disabled in June, you must wait six month without earning or working. So your back pay would start from December. I was injured June 2007. My back pay was from December 2007 until August 2010. They cheat you out of six months. As far as forms, I think social security has a paper mill. Every few weeks I had forms to fill out. Forms to release my medical records, forms to have my doctors fill out and forms for me. However, once I retained an Attorney they took care of all the forms. I only went to sign the completed forms. Every form they send you has a dead line. Talk to your attorney. They know how to get extensions if needed and put an end to all the unnecessary forms.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      I just heard from them again, they are sending me to another doctor. An Internist for a breathing test. The psychologist added things to my list problems so I guess that is what the breathing test is from. Does anyone know what they do for a breathing test? Is it common for them to send you for a second appointment with someone?

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      sophia 5 years ago

      Bogey-

      I became disabled in January 2011... sorry to ask this, but how would my backpay start???

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      How far back will they go for back pay? Is it from they day you file? Or the last date you could work? Would they go back to 2008 if you just filed?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue I believe it's from your last day you worked. Sophia your payment would begin in June, since that's six months from your last date working. As far as a breathing test, it's probably like an asthma test. You blow into a device and it checks your lungs and breathing capacity. Sometimes anxiety causes breathing issues. Good luck. Hope this help answer both questions.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue, they will go back to 2008, as long as you haven't worked during the past 3 years. My case went back to 2007. My hearing date was August 2010, but I did not work for over 3 years. I had multiple surgeries to support I couldn't work during that period. Hope that helps.

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      sophia 5 years ago

      DAZEEBLUE- I had a pft i believe its called... nothing major... u breathe into a tube, you sit in a lil booth like superman, lol.... depending on your situation, you may have to do other tests also... but nothing major....

      BOGEY- thank you for being so patient :)))))) honest.... thank you............:))))))))))

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue no problem. I hope everything went well. Sorry I haven't checked in the last few days. I had doctors appointments myself and have good and bad days myself. I try to check and review I've just been out of energy. Thank god for my I Pad or I would lose track of everything. Best of lucky to everyone and I will continue to answer any questions.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Thanks for responding. I've been living off of insurance money and am almost broke. I might get ahold of my caseworker and see if I'd qualify for a hardship claim. If not I might be living under a bridge somewhere.

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      Bogey99 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue, do you have an attorney? Also your age plays a big part in the process. Social Security won't come out and say it but it's a fact that the older you are the better your chances. Also education gives them more options. The higher level of education, the larger job fields you fall into. It's a messed up system. That's why having a good attorney from your area, county or city is very helpful. Once you have an attorney, all the stupid forms and requests are handled by your attorney. Less stress for you. If you filed in 2008 and your appeals were on time your hearing should be soon. Good luck.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Bogey, I think I have a long way to go yet. I just filed in August. Haven't gotten the first denial yet. They are sending me to a second doctor in about 10 days. My case is just about two months old. I found one attorney online but they are over a hundred miles from where I am at. Was hoping to find one closer to where I am before I make the first contact with them. I'm 51, been widowed for over 7 years and only have one year of college. I was going to try an go back to school but most of the classes I took are outdated so basically I lost about half of the credits I had. They haven't asked for my employment history yet but they should have that. I guess I really should of filed sooner but I thought I'd get over things but that's not happening. How many doctors do you think they will send me to before they send the first letter?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      I was only sent to one doctor but my case was reviewed by a doctor in another state who never examined me. He was the person who denied me. My case was approved, then denied. I appealed and it was denied again. Hired an attorney and won when I went before a Hearing Judge. At the hearing, the judge had a doctor present. He told the judge I should never have been denied and found me more disabled then my own doctor, based on Social Securities list of impairments. My attorney explained they denied me because of my age. All the reasons for being denied were based on my condition going to improve. During the process, I had major hip surgery and 3 level spinal fusion. I also had over 13 medical procedures and months of rehab. Not to mention, all the complications and medications. I also have 8 different doctors. My medical file is over 1000, pages. The judge took less then a minute to make a bench decision after asking me a few questions and consulting with Social Securities doctor. I worked the same job for 20 years, so she could see my work history. Your age will help you and believe it not finishing college will also. This gives them less jobs to place you in. Remember, if you can't work 8 hours a day 40 hours a week, your disabled. Just continue with your doctor, tell him or her what's going on. Make sure they agree and are willing to support you with forms or sworn statements. Some doctors don't like to get involved with lawyers. Also be honest with them. I have good days and I have bad days. I just can't do sustained work since being injured. I'm also under restrictions, no bending, lifting or twisting. Also because of the medications my driving prevliges were taken away. I just started driving in July but I really shouldn't for several reasons. Medication and my range of motion. Just find a good doctor who supports you and an attorney. If I had an attorney from the start, my case would have been resolved much quicker. Make sure your attorney is from your area.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue did you work prior to becoming disabled? Also have you worked since. You must be out for six months and be expected to miss 12 months or missed 12 months of work. Go to Social Securities web page. It explains everything. You also need to have a certain number of years worked.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      I started working at age 14. Besides taking roughly 6 years off when my girls were born, I've had steady work up until 2005. That's when my problems started. I worked part time in 2008 and haven't worked since then. I'm sure I have enough years in. I'm wondering if they'll use my record or my late husbands for widows benefits. I know of someone who never worked and her husband passed away and she started getting benefits on his record the month she turned 50. If I could do what I did before, I would much rather be out there working than going through what I'm going through. I'd do anything to have my old life back.

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      Aunt Louise 5 years ago

      Hello to all! Just wondering what are the "5 criteria" that have been mentioned it some of the postings.I understand what the "Blue Book of disabilities" is but not sure about the other or at least I do not remember what it is. God bless all of you who are literally fighting for yours and your families lives.It is an uphill battle and I wish for you the most favorable of outcomes.

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      DDPace 5 years ago

      Hi,

      I got married right out of college and spent about two years working. I then had my first child. I found it difficult to work and take care of a child at the same time. Fortunately my husband earned a decent living so I did not have to work. By the time my 2nd child was in High School, I knew i just did not have the stamina to work and come home and cook and take care of my family. My lack of stamina and increasing fatigue finally was so unbearable that my doctors began testing me. Results are that I was diagnosed at age 50 with Multiple Schlerosis. I was told that I people don't get MS at age 50 and that I had more than likely had it since I was in my early 20's. I have been having treatment for my MS for the past 10 years. I am now 60. My husband is 68 and only collects SS can I apply for Medicare Benefits. My private insurance is forcing us to have to sell our home. Thank you!

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      donna bowers 5 years ago

      do you recommed getting a lawyer first or apply on your own? My husband has stage 4 copd and hasn't worked for almost 3 years due to a layoff, and could not pass a breathing text to return to work. Will he get back money from the time he was diagnosed 2 years ago? thank you for your post. it is very helpful

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      donna may 54 5 years ago

      hello, habee, thank you so much for this post. my husband has been diagnoised with stage 4 copd, and has been laid off from work 2 1/2 years. when called back he could not pass the breath test. my question is : should he get a lawyer or apply himself? also would he receive back pay from when he was first diagnoised 2 years ago? do they do this automatically or should we get a lawyer? thank you again for your help

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      I will try to answer as many questions for Habee. The 5 stages are on Social Securities web page. If you meet their 3rd stage you will automatically qualify. That's a list of impairments. The problem is there are grey areas. They use the 5 levels to determine if you meet their definition of disabilities. It's very confusing. @Donna. Every City and State is different. I strongly recommend an attorney. I didn't use one and was denied twice before being approved. I feel Social Security hopes people who get denied will give up but an attorney won't. Also, Social Security Attorneys understand the process. @ Donna May, I also recommend an attorney. An Attorney will be able to figure out how far Social Security has to go back. Remember the back pay begins six months from the last day you worked because of your disability. It's very confusing. I don't think half the Social Security employees understand it. Good luck. @ DDPace, you my only qualify for SSI and Medicade. It all depends on how many credits or years of work you have paid into Social Security. If I was you I would go to your local Social Security office and have them pull up your work history. Good luck.

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      Julie 5 years ago

      i got fired because i was calling in to much, i have FM and am getting unemployement. do you know if i can apply for disability while i am still recieving unemployement? any advice would be very much appreciated. thanks

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      I went to to SS web page and reread the list. Now I'm wondering since I haven't worked 5 of the last 10 years, should I tell them I want to file for disabled widow benefits or will they automatically do that? I've only got about 4 years of the last 10 for myself.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Julie, I don't know if unemployement counts against you because your not actully working. Best way to find out is call them or a Social Security attorney. @dazeeblue don't count on Social Security to do anything automatically. I would run your case by an attorney.

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      Tami 5 years ago

      hello all, i have been reading everything on here, great information! so my story is as follows. I am 28 today, yes i know i am young, i was diagnosed at age 8 with severe depression and anxiety problems and put on prozac and then zoloft. At age 17 I was diagnosed with manic depression after attempting to kill myself. And I ended up having to go back to a crisis stabilization unit, i was baker acted, I was about 23 this time. I managed to deal with my problems and the ppl around me (my friends) accepted them. My problems started to get worse and my mania became uncontrollable and I got fired from my job for sexual harassment on a co worker and a customer. Anyways it was last yr when my world turned upside down and I am stiff suffering today, I cant get out of bed most days, i forget to shower, eat, take care of my animals, most things i cant even do anymore. I am constantly thinking I am going to die, I am afraid to go out side in fear of dying, I actually visualize it. I see people who arent there, these images are driving me crazy. My brother killed himself in my house last yr and I keep seeing him, we were very close. I was going to school at this time to become a medical assistant and there was nothing I could do to stop him from dying. So when I went to the doctor for disability for my mental issues they said I was suffering from bi polar and ptsd. I asked him (the doctor) if I had a case and he laughed at me and said I sure do and then gave me numbers for lawyers in case I was denied which he said 80% of people were. So I saw him 3 days ago and I am now waiting. This case is going by fast, is that normal? I just filled my application out 3 months ago. And also my brother who has diabetic neuropathy they denied him and never even sent him to a doctor so why did i get sent to one? I am a lil confused on things. Habee or Bogey or anyone else can you help?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Tami the reason your on this site is why we are all here. Social Security is one messed up portion of our government. You only find out when your, sick, disabled or dying. To put it as simple as I see it. It's a Federal program with rules and guidelines. Here is the problem. Every City and State follows it's own set of rules to determine the definition of disability. The City and State then forward it's determination of you to someone who never meets you or talks to you and makes a determination on your case. Now some conditions at the beginning of the process may be closer to a determination then others, so they move along faster. Some case workers are more compassionate then others and try to expedite cases. Lastly, the region of the country. Some City/States have 3 year back logs where others may have 6 months. I hope that helps. I honestly don't think the best Social Security Attorneys know why the process is so messed up. My grandfather died in 1972, of cancer. He was given 6 months to live when he applied. They day after he died a letter of denile came in the mail. He worked his entire life until the last 4-6 months. When I became disabled I began doing research and that's how I found this Hubpage. I have heard and seen too many people suffer dealing with Social Security. That's my motivation. If I can help one person fell better about the stress and hell Social Security puts you, then I get rewarded. I myself spent over 3 years to win my case. You have a head start. This Hubpage, a doctor who believes your disabled and a list of attorneys in your area who know your doctor. That's extremely important! I wish you good luck and keep us posted on your case.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Went for the breathing test this morning. The doctor asked me my history, then told me not everyone gets a medical card and I should go talk to a priest. Never mentioned getting the medical card so I don't know what to think about this. He also said something about the community being able to help me. I've found an attorney that is local but want to wait till I get the denial. After going to this doctor, I guess it will just be a matter of time before the letter comes.

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      Mickey 5 years ago

      I am an 18 year old young woman, or I will be in 4 days. I am applying for ssdi because of my medical bills and the fact that I cannot work at all. I have Fibromyalgia and a whole host of other issues that come with fibro. I got a letter from ss saying I had been denied because I had only worked a lil less than a year in my whole life. Well since I was diagnosed with Fibro over 2 years ago and began being sick 3 years ago that would mean I would have been 15.... what 15 year old has worked for 2 years? I got another call saying that my appointment over the phone is today... so I guess they are still considering me? I know my case is going to be hard to prove as I am very young, have fibro, and have not sent in any medical records yet. But I have them all. So how do I get them to ss?

      Anyone have any suggestions on how someone as young as me can get ssdi. Because I know an 18 year old living with parents is a normal situation and you wouldn't think she would need an income but I do. My bills are steep and are about to increase in number. My father has cancer and needs surgery and if I wasn't disabled I would be working around 40 hour weeks to pay the bills. I don't go to school because I can't... now I would think since I was 15 when this started that they would see not being able to go to school as an equivalent of not being able to work... because not many 15 year olds I know have a full time job :)

      Any suggestions would be very helpful as this is my last hope so thank you in advance. :)

      - Mickey

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue don't take what any of the Social Security doctors say. They see patients for money. If they approve everyone Social Security would stop using them. Half of them aren't even specialist in the field concerning your disability. It's sad but that's the truth. The doctor they sent me to was a pediatrician and I was 41 years old. If you qualify for SSD you usually get Medicare, SSI Medicade. Mickey, your going to have to apply for SSI because you don't have enough work history. You can still be able to receive, health coverage, a check and a card for food. You need to have ten consecutive years working to apply for SSD. When you talk to Social Security they should explain this. Good luck.

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      Mickey 5 years ago

      Bogey - Thanks for letting me know that. Just got off the phone with Social Security and I am now applying for some child disability stuff off of my fathers SSI, or something to that effect. Hopefully they will approve my claim. Thanks for all the advice Habee and everyone's stories. Good Luck All :)

      - Mickey

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      dj 5 years ago

      I guess this is a big process and scared have two kids and back problems from a work injury now can't hardly move a lot of nerve damage left leg gives out and very hard to control my pain level workers comp lawyer tells me to go amd file disability on my own and I feel like they threw to the curb I've got a lot of paaperwork that im gonna have to get together hope I can get some assistance while this is in process

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      DJ are you still receiving workers comp? Just get all your records together, keep a file, write down names and dates of everyone you speak with at Social Securtiy. Just remember some states are faster then others. Also your age and work history are applied. It's a lot of paper work and they seem to have a history of misplacing your records. You may also want to speak with an attorney in your area. Just remember if your disability prevents you from working 8 hours a day 40 hours a week, you are disabled. Also your worker comp attorney should have your medical records. Good luck.

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      anna 5 years ago

      I have been trying to get social security for about 6 months now. After the first denile I decided to go with a group of lawyers that specializes in social security. I was denied a second time last month and now the lawyer says I have to go before a judge, which could take 12 to 15 months to get a hearing. I was curious about legal finance groups like oasis legal. I didn't know if anyone had or was able to use them to go ahead and get some of the back pay owed to them. Could someone let me know something? I have lots of medical bills piling up, and am unable to work.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Bogey.....after he told me to go to a priest, he didn't even give me the chance to ask how long it would take for them to send their report. Are they under guidelines to get it back to SS in a reasonable amount of time or can that doctor just do whatever he wants to do with it? Seems to be a hurry up to wait situation. What is average wait time to get the first deny/approve letter?

      Anna.......I'm just starting the process but I was wondering if you got the second denial using the attorney? I'm going to contact a local firm that has one attorney who handles all their cases when the time comes.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Anna your attorney only gets paid if you win. As far as going with large Social Security groups, they may not be from your area and you might not even meet with an attorney until the date of your hearing. I would suggest finding an attorney in your city. Someone you can sit down and go over your entire situation. All you need to do is go to a local attorney and they will tell you how to release the group you have. Once you do this, the local attorney can handle your case. I did this and it was the best thing for my case. I went with a big group because my long term disability made me feel I had to use a group from Boston. Once I found out I could choose my own attorney I went with an attorney in my city who was able to speak with my doctors and meet with me. Also, he knew the judges in my area and what they expect. Judges from every city and state are different. If your group isn't familiar with your judge it can hurt your case. Good luck.

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      Aunt Louise 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue, I applied in August as well and haven't heard a thing. The case worker asked me on two occasions if I would be willing to go to a doctor of their choosing and I said of course. I see all of my doc's every three months and my disabilities are well documented. I know they contacted my PCP a month ago but haven't heard anything further. I always think of what Bogey said about them sending him to a pediatrician when all of his problems were from spinal issues. That's the govt for you. One question, what is your case worker suppose to do for you? I have talked to mine once and that was at the beginning.For the first papers I filled out they did not send a return envelope so I didn't know it was suppose to go to the DDD in London,Ky and I sent it to Tallahassee.Still not sure about that one but again it is the govt. I also think Bogey and Habee should start their own consulting firm for SSDI and SSI applicants. Experience is worth more than anything. I hope things move right along for you Dazeeblue. Did the doc give you the results of your pulmonary function tests? What kind of medical card were you talking about? DJ keep your head up and never ever give up hope! Blessings to all in this fight.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue, the person you first I dealt with in my case just took all my information and my case was assigned to another person. I didn't speak with the first person from Social Security until my case was approved over three years later. Basically your file will go through several workers before you hear something. Your case is probably in the hands of another case worker and that person will contact you for medical updates and to send you to a doctor for review. Don't put much weight in that doctors opinion. Also bring all your records with you. Let them make copies but don't give them your reports. Good luck.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Aunt Louise. Sorry I meant the first person you deal with. They just take down the info and pass it on. Good luck.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Well most of my medical records are too old. I'm really afraid to go to the emergency room because I do not want to loose my house if the SS doesn't go through. They've sent me to two places so far. The first was very understanding and the second for the breathing test was sort of a butthead. The test they gave me was just sitting in a chair and blowing in a tube. The nurse kept telling me I was doing it wrong, even though I was trying my best to do it they way she said. She ended up having me use an inhaler to try to open my lungs up. I couldn't blow out for the required amount of time. They really wouldn't answer any of my questions. I was hoping to get a medicaid/medicare care. So far I have the same caseworker as when I first applied. At least she is the one who is making these appointments right now. Seems like they handle every case different. I'll go to as many doctors as they want to send me to. I'm at the end of my rope. My Mom had liver cancer, only made it about 30 days after they told her. We had hospice come to give her care. I kept the morphine and if things get much worse, I figure thats the easy way out. The worse part about all this is awhile back I had real good medical insurance. Husband paid $80 out of every pay for it. Didn't need it then though. Now that I need insurance, I don't have it.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue, I'm sure a majority of disabled people don't have health insurance so Social Security knows this. Just keep your head up. Don't let it get you down. I know it's hard but you have to keep fighting. Social Security wins a majority of cases because people give up. Hear Judges and an Attorney can explain your situation concerning not being able to afford doctors because no insurance. Good luck.

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      aunt Louise 5 years ago

      Well, my husband and I received more papers to fill out and return yesterday..I guess I'll have to do this for every diagnosis I have. Sat down and sent my state rep a letter on behalf of all applicants.Will probably go in the nearest wastebasket but you can never tell.Praying for approvals for all of us this week!

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      sophia 5 years ago

      i have health insurance that my husband pays for, 160.00 month.. doesn't sound like alot, but it is when u have 950.mortgage, and no help from gov't agencies, b/c i am married !!! i have script coverage, but it is still high, some meds are 80.00, yes, that is for 3 months, but when u have like 8 meds to get, that is way too much for me...

      just saying, you can have health, & script coverage, but still be poor as i am....

      i wrote my letter to ss asking them to please review my case for expedition on the following reasons, and health updates.... wish me luck... my lawyer says they won't, but i disagree..... i wish everyone luck, as the system stinks for the honest disabled people... i know some who are not, and receive... seems alot of workers comp cases for ss are easier to get.... don't know....

      thanks for all your help bogey :)))))

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Seems like Social Security has stock in paper companies. They do love have you fill out forms. It is such a waste. Just make copies of everything you send. @ Sophia I wish you luck with getting Social Security to move your case up.

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      Aunt Louise 5 years ago

      Had a call from SS case manager yesterday to apologise for my not getting the return envelopes yet again. We actually cahtted for a minute and she said "We are trying to expedite this for you as quickly as possible". At least some communication at last. I told her I realized it was early days as yet.

      Hope someone(of us) gets approved this week! PS: Amen to the paper thing. Kind of hard on those of us who have carpel tunnel in both hands not to mention the many more serious disabilities that hinder or prevent others from writing or typing.Oh,by the way, got a very nice non personal,stock reply from my state rep. Hang is there all!

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Our politicians are so supportive. They only care about the people at election time and even then they only care about your vote. I bet if we could form a network of disabled people and those fighting Social Security, we would have enough people to get Capitol Hills attention. We could hold the swing vote. We would also bring everyone collecting regular Social Security on board. Then things would change. If I only knew how to get everyone on board? I better be careful, the secrete service might come get me:)

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      jeffy 5 years ago

      I cn't see the shrink for 3 months, Im grateful for the Medicaid but man there are so many medical disasters.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Medicaid and Medicare are a disaster!!!

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      JChangesinClemmon 5 years ago

      My main concern is that I have Bipolar disorder AND a knee disability. The Bipolar disorder is an issue I have been struggling with for years, and the knee, for five, dealt with Workers comp, settled, knee was not better, doc said no work, so I was told if I did not file for disability I would lose my eligibility after the five year mark. So I filed for disability June 2010, denied, then again by my SS attorney in late October of 2010, denied. So they have appealed to the courts and said a court date should be set somewhere between April and June of 2012 because it took a year. I am from North Carolina. I know that makes no difference because it is the government. Bipolar gives me horrible days, iffy days, okay days, and good days, and they don't come in that order....ever!!! It is crippling to me because I don't know when I will be triggered. My doctor and psychiatrist tries to teach me how to pinpoint the triggers so they don't throw me into a full-blown episode. My 17 year old son died in an auto accident unnecessarily in 2007, and I still have so much difficulty with that alone - boom! TRIGGER. Let those judges tell me I don't have a disability?? They have twice! I am angry...angry at those who get away with it when I deserve some help. My knee. I have had 3 surgeries, after the 3rd one, I have permanent chronic pain. I am hyper-sensitive to any pain-killer known to man, including injections and patches. I live in constant pain. All doctors throw their hands up in the air because they become frustrated with me. I look at them and say, "How do you think I feel?" I am beyond disgusted, beyond sick and tired, and beyond feeling as if eyes are on my back all of the time. I feel that my life is in the hands of my SS Attorney. I become ill just thinking about it anymore. Ideas?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      JC. First you have an injury to a mojor weight bearing joint. That is one of Social Security's list of impairments. Just get an orthopedic doctor to agree with your condition. As far as your Bipolor condition, if your doctors have done there job correctly all you conditions or mood changes will be listed. Also, all you medications will be presented before your hearing judge. I just hope you have a good attorney from your area. That's important because he or she will know how to present your case to your judge. It's a federal system but every city and state is different. Good luck, stay positive. I know it's tough. I went through it for over three years. FYI, your first two denials were by case workers and Social Security doctors. The hearing is the first time a judge reviews cases. That's why hearing level approvals are so much higher then the first two stages. good luck again.

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      SteveO 5 years ago

      Hey Mr. Bogey Kudos to you my friend for hangin in here for so long and helping people ,sometime a kind word changes everthing.Just a quick question ,I live in Tn and seen the Judge august 26th almost 6 weeks .How long did you wait before you heard anything after your hearing?Im 54 and the VE said there was nothing I could do.My hearing lasted all of 5 minutes.My lawyer hugged my neck and said it was a 90% chance a winner.Thanks for any Info....

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      SteveO, It took about a month to receive a letter from the judge then another month for Social Security to contact me and have me go to the local office. Now my judge made a bench ruling the day of my hearing fully favorable. That probably made things a bit faster. Bottom line was I won my case August 19, and received my first chech in October. My lump sum or back pay took even longer. I did receive my Medicae Card in September. Hope that helps. From the research I've done, the hearing judge has to prepare an explanation of the ruling and it gets reviewed before you get the final decision. If you case lasted only 5 mins and the vocation expert said you can't work, it's just a matter of time. Good luck, let us know when you get your letter.

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      JChangesinClemmon 5 years ago

      Hello Bogey, Thank you so much for your assistance. I already have an orthopedic surgeon who has been with me since the onset of this accident in May '06. She has documented everything and provided me with everything I need regarding the knee injury and also has provided restrictions. I feel I am covered in that department. My Bipolar Issues are another issue in and of itself due to the fact I lost the best Psychiatrist I ever had. I like my new one, but it is hard to judge after only 2 visits. I suppose I have some time. My SS attorney does have an awesome legal assistant; who at the very beginning of this case asked me to check in with them toward the middle of each month to let them know how I was doing. I was having one of my days when submitted a post yesterday. Once again, thank you for the help.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      JC. Sucks you have new doctor but your attorney can still use all his notes and medical evaluations/records from your previous doctor. I had 8 doctors but my attorney only took a sworn statement from one. He did provide my records from all my other doctors and the hearing judge reviewed all my doctors reports and medical records. I actully had 11 doctors but 3 stopped taking my insurance so I had to change. I'm sure this happens in Social Security cases, given the time it takes some cases from start to finish. Just make sure you review your entire file with your attorney to make sure it's complete. Good luck. We all have good and bad days.

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      Acruz 5 years ago

      Good afternoon everyone, hoping someone could help me with my question..thank you in advance..

      i was awarded 25 thousand dollars workers compensation lump sum, no weekly checks no montly checks just the lump sum 4 years ago(2007) only got 19 thousand dollar after lawyers fee,so i got 19 thousand dollars total,, now i have been approved for social security disability benefits on 9/26/2011. will it affect my social security disability benefits and back pay..workers compensation injury settlement and the reason i am about to receive ssdi are the same injury

      thank you in advance..

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      I'm not an attorney but Social Security held my lump sum to see if I ever received workers comp. So the only thing I can say is it may. Also some Long Term Disability companies expect to be paid back. If you have or had a Social Security attorney they will know. You can also call Social Security or check on line. Sorry I don't have a better answer. Good luck.

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      cassyrich73 5 years ago

      Hello im a 38 year old female that has been diagnosed with bp disorder unspecified, peripheral neuropathy(im not diabetic) spasm of muscle, fibromyalgia, lumbago (not really sure what this is), anxiety disorder nos, and insomnia due to stress.( have tried every sleepin med out there and not having much luck stayin asleep..... the fibro meds are having to be changed over and over cant find one that aleviates the pain... i am currently working a full time job standing on my feet but not sure just how much longer i can do this. i can hardly walk after i get off work. dont know just how much longer i can do this. i stay depressed all the time even tho i have a great hubby. my doc has sent me for x rays and showing mild disc bulging. sounds like a need for a second opinion. without fibro meds i can barely walk. love to work but i hate the pain. sitting jobs are the same my feet and legs hurt tremendously when i get up. i just keep on working so that i can support my family. not sure how much longer i can do it!havent applied for disability yet but seriously concidering it soon. any suggestion?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Cassy, my first suggestion is speak with your doctor. See if he or she supports your condition causing you enough to be found disabled according to Social Security's definition. Having the support of your doctor or doctors is very important. No one knows you and your medical history better then them. Also start a file. Keep all your records, doctors reports and list of medications. You may also want to keep a journal of how many nights you can't sleep and why, the side effects of some of your medications and how many times the doctors have changed your prescriptions. In addition, keep records of how long you can sit or stand before the pain begins. Do you need breaks to relieve the pain or take medication to control the pain. Remember, some medication are very strong. It may make you tired, affect your ability to drive or do simple tasks. Start with your doctors first. Make sure they specialize in your condition. Good luck.

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      acruz 5 years ago

      @ bogey,

      thanks for the info, its very much appreciated..

      all i have received from ssa. is the fully favorable letter, so ive been wondering if it had to do with the workers compensation case,and of course what to expect next.. its been a long process.. Again thank you for your help..

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      A Cruz. If Social Security sent the letter that means you won your case. The judge finished his or her explanation and it was approved at the Hearing level. Now your case gets sent back to your local office and they will break down your payment process, if your going to receive Medicare and pay any money owed to any disability companies and your attorney's portion. Contact your attorney. If your attorney has been paid your first monthly check and Medicare card will be coming to you. You may have to go to your local Social Security office to complete some minor forms and they will explain how far back your lump some is and how much you will receive. It's just a matter of time. Congatulations! Good luck!

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      NANCY DEARING 5 years ago

      yes i have a 20 year old man who is totally retarded and he can't work and he is also bipoler and he has adha and then i found out that he can't live out there on his own he can't live with no one but family and his dad has to file for gardienship over him and he was on ssi and then the people at the social security office told me that one he turned 18 he is no longer disabled and they have been starting and stopping his check and now they are tring to make me payback some money i am going to go to the reginal health center to get copies from the doc. and i am going to see what it will take for my husband to file for gardienship and then go file she said that will help get his income back but it could take up to a year but how can i go and try to get it sooner than waiting until sep. of next year but should i start paing back some of the money or not because he is intiled to that money regardless right

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Nancy I would get a Social Security Attorney to get you through this red tape carbage. This is wrong at every level. The problem is Social Security will tell you one thing over the phone and do something different behind your back. I'm sure an attorney can give you honest answers and explain your rights, to help the person who is disabled. Good luck.

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      Lucky me 5 years ago

      I have just received letter from ss saying I have been approved for disability. First try Took six months though. I have read alot of comments people have made here and they state when you receive first check you should get your medicare card. I thought you couln.t get medicare for 24 months. Does anyone know for sure?

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      skyview66 5 years ago

      Hi I am new to this site. I filed a social security disability claim and received my denial letter 10/8/11. Hired an attorney today to handle my case. I live in PA and the reconsideration step is not part of the process in our state. I have read through this site and feel relieved that this helpful info/people exist.. thanks :)

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Lucky me. Your correct. The reason I received Medicare so soon was because my case took over 3 years from the date I became disabled to the final approval at the hearing level. Since your case was approved in six months, you will receive a monthly benefit and after 24 months your should receive Medicare parts A&B. Sky view 66, sorry your case was denied. Don't let it get you down. Social Security only approves 12-14 percent at the initial level. Lucky for you, your state is one of the smart states that did away with the reconsideration level. That's going to save you 6 months to a year waiting to get turned down again. Now you get to go before a Hearing Judge and if your attorney has experience, he or she will know how to present your disability to the Judge in a way the Judge wants it. Also, your attorney will get your file from Social Security and make sure it's complete. Even though you supply Social Security with medical documents, it's rare when a file is correct. When I sat down with my attorney and we went over my file it was a mess plus it was missing almost a years worth of medical reports. Another thing is if your attorney is from your city, he or she will know the Hearing Judge. What makes this important is Judges like files and reports in a certain order and in a timely manner. The last thing you want is your attorney to anger your Judge because your file is a mess or not delivered in the time frame your Judge likes. Once you receive your hearing date your attorney will be able to tell you about your Hearing Judge and what to expect on the day of your hearing. Mine was very informal, and my Judge has a reputation of being tough but fair. She was very professional, she read my entire file and asked me some questions. She then had Social Security's doctor speak and after he gave his opinion, she made a fully favorable bench decision. Your can Google Social Security Hearing level. You will find plenty of sites explaining what to expect. Just be honest. On the day of my hearing I observed several people trying to take advantage of the system. Your medical reports, doctors opinion of your condition and honesty are important. I saw people pushing wheel chairs then using them. If you need a wheel chair you doctor will document it. Good luck, keep us posted.

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      Juan Rivera 5 years ago

      Helloo0o I did apply for SSA cause I got in a motorcycle accident and I had a brain trauma. I lost my sight of smell and I cant hear from one ear and when I look up I get real dizzy and lost of memory and few more things but the thing is that I cant go to a doctors cause they are charging me alot and I cant afford it. I already went to an interview and now I got another one on the 26 but I just got a letter from department of childrens and family saying that my food stamps benefits will decrease from $200 to $41,,,wow! so I called them to ask why thats is happening and a lady told me that ssi send them an email letting them know that I am getting a check this month so thats the reason why they did that but I cant understand how I am getting a check when still Im not approve for ssi and still got an appointment coming and I just dont get it but I hope it was'nt a mistake from ssi and is true but is somebody know something about it than I will appreciate very much for your time thank you

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Juan maybe your case was approved. Try to contact your Social Security case worker or the person who has it. On most of your paper work there is a bar code so they can track your file. Good luck, sorry about your accident.

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      skyview66 5 years ago

      Hi Bogey I appreciate your response & information. Thanks. I will keep you posted.

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      glow1950 5 years ago

      I am a 61 year old unemployed registered nurse. I am in constant pain in my neck , back, shoulders, feet and hips. I had what I thought was good documentation from an orthopedic doctor yet I was denied SSDI. I am getting getting ready to appeal. I need all the help I can get. I recevied a letter about SSI they are requesting finacial information.

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      awalla01 5 years ago

      Steven M Sargent 014-60-5091 posted about 18 months ago...very sad story. Has he posted any more? I'm very concerned

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Glow have you seen a Social Security Attorney yet? If not get one. Not sure why they want your finacial information. Your earnings are on your W2 forms. Very odd? Sorry I can't give you any further advise, I'm not an attorney and trying to figure out Social Security is nearly impossible. Good luck. @ Awalla I haven't seen any posts from him.

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      jerryswife 5 years ago

      Early August my husband started passing out went to a hospital that didn't have a clue and the family doctor said sinus infection. A few weeks later he had a heart attack, 2 days later a pace maker then after 2 weeks longer testing we found out he has cancer in 5 places in his head and neck. I had a phone interview the end of August. Took all the paper work to the office. When husband called she said they had the doctor papers, he might be asked to see one of their doctors and she'd call in a few days. Well a few day come & went so husband called left a message we still haven't heard from her. We have 2 grandchildren were raising and no money coming into the house at all. Welfare is a huge joke on tax payers. I applied in August and after months of taking them every paper we have they finally approved him for NOVEMBER 1! They weren't pay the hospital bills for August or the chemo etc for Sept. or Oct. How long does it take them to approve you and will they cover outstanding medical bills?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Every case is different, every city/state is as well. It's is very obvious he will miss more then 12 months of work because of his condition. That is one of Social Security's rules for making a determination. As far as Medicare, he has to be disabled for 24 months before he can start receiving Medicare. What city/state are you in? The part about seeing a Social Security doctor is a joke. It's just a part of the process. I wish your husband and you and your family good luck.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Monday will be three weeks since I went for the breathing test. I guess that doctor is in no hurry to send the report. Don't know if I should call the caseworker or just wait it out. Contacted local attorney and they are ready to take over, I'm just waiting to get the denial.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue in Social Security's eyes your just a number or another case. It stinks but they move at a snails pace. Attorney or not they will not work any faster for anyone. Using an attorney in my opinion is the best option because you can speak with your attorney anytime and get information about your case quicker. But the bottom line your at the mercy of Social Security. Good Luck.

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      Myre 5 years ago

      I applied for SSD and they have made a decision on my claim.. However, they won't tell me what the dscision is. My case worker said they had to send my information back to social security and then I would get a letter in the mail.. So I guess my question is how long will it take before I get the decision letter?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Myre. You never know. I was told they made a decision but they wouldn't tell me and my file was sent to a different state for review. Three years later when my attorney received my file we found out I was approved then the person in another state reviewing my file denied me. I don't want to scare you but always prepare for the worse. I don't know why Social Security plays games. They know the decision but they won't tell you over the phone. Even when I had my approval letter they gave me the run around over the phone. I even told them I have my letter and I will fax you a copy. They still would tell me there is no decision on your case. I wish you good luck. If they said they sent a letter it should take a few weeks.

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      acruz 5 years ago

      Quick question, Does anyone know on what days or times of day backpay is deposited into ones account. do they have a certain time of day that they deposit funds?

      thanks in advance

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      Myre 5 years ago

      Thanks for the information!!!!!!!Once I get the decision letter I will be sure to post the results.. Thanks for having such a wonderful forum :)

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      deangelia 5 years ago

      What do I do for my daughter she's. Had a learning disabilty al her life all the way back to elementar?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      ACRUZ. If you have direct deposit set up you should receive a letter from Social Security and it will tell you when your monthly payment is scheduled to begin and the date you will receive your check. The lump sum is held for a while because Social Security checks to see if you owe any workers comp, attorney fees or job related long term disability money. Once they finish checking they will notify you and make arrangements for you to receive your lump sum. @ Myre good luck with your health and case. @Deangelia I don't know how Social Security handles children or young adults because they don't have enough years payed into Social Security to receive SSD. However, she might be eligible for SSI and Medicaid. Good luck.

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      Got my denial letter. Reasons they gave were not really what I filed for which doesn't make too much sense to me. When I do the reconsideration appeal, do you think it would be a good idea to have them mail the forms or would it be just as good to file online?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Dazeeblue, sorry to hear you were denied. You only have about sixty days to appeal. The problem with the reconsideration appeal is it goes before the same people who denied you. I would take your letter and medical records to a Social Security Attorney in your City or County. They only get paid if you win and they will help you with the appeal. Also, they might find some errors in your original application. I went through the entire process. I went to an Attorney when my case was denied at the reconsideration level. When we went through my file it was missing so many documents. My Attorney put my appeal file together and at my Hearing I was approved in a few minuets. The Hearing Judge made a Bench Decision and even apologized. Further more, Social Security's Doctor at my hearing rated me more disabled then my own Doctor. Remember, nation 70 percent are approved overall. However, less then 20 percent are approved at the first two levels. It's so bad, some states are doing away with The Reconsideration Level. Hang in there. I know it's tough. I felt like crap for over 3 years. You just need an Attorney to present your condition and a Doctor who agrees your condition prevents you from working and is a specialist in dealing with your disability. Do your research on a local Attorney. Stay away from some of these big groups. You want an Attorney who will sit down with you and help you. I started with a big group but went with a local Attorney when I found out I could pick my own Attorney. I was sent to a group by my long term disability insurance and this group was in Boston. I live in South Florida. Having a local Attorney I believe won my case. First, his reputation in South Florida before the Hearing Judges. Second, he knew all my Doctors from his years of handling Social Security cases. Finally, I was able to go to his office and hand deliver documents and he kept me up to date with everything. I have heard of cases where people didn't meet their Attorney until the day of the Hearing. To me that is messed up. Just remember, keep your head up and don't stop fighting. Also don't refile appeal. A lot of people mess up. If you refile it's like starting over. Also, don't miss the dead lines. I very sorry you have become another victim of Social Security's messed up system.

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      Jennifer 5 years ago

      Bogey, thanks so much for the great information, this is one post that i read from beginning to end. I have applied for my disability for intractable migraines and fibormyalgia, so we will see where this goes.

      I am trying to prepare myself for a long fight ahead and trying to find out as much information as possible so i will be prepared, this post really helped. i am really glad you won your case. May i ask a couple of questions?

      1.would they took into consideration any hospital visits you had (as i have had many for the migraines)?

      2.do you think that me taking a leave of absence (FMLA) and the then getting fired because of medical reasons will have any affect on the decision? (i live in MS where there is a no fault policy on absences

      3. do you think that writing a personal letter with my initial packet would help?

      4. what kind of think should i look for in a lawyer?

      thanks so much in advance

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      STEVEO 5 years ago

      Hey Mr Bogey,Its Steveo Again Just wanted to say hi! Your busy'er than a one arm paper hager on here.haha

      Its been 2 months now since the hearing still havent heard any thing I called my ATTorney and he called the Hearing Div they said that the judge has singed the decision that all they could say About to lose my home here.Well i seen today on Tv were ss was going to get a 3.6 % raise does that that go towards disability to.If so you'll be gettin a raise to.Sad part its just a raise for the good old Doctors.Right .....Looking forward to talkin with you again Thanks STEVEO

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      Myre 5 years ago

      Ok I got my letter today and I was denied..I have been so upset. I have cronic leg ulcers and lymphodema which makes it hard for me to stand on my leg for long periods of time because they swell up. Also the ulcer will break down into a sore which takes months of therapy to heal. How can they say that I don't have a disability.Then on top of that I have medical records from my specialist that date back to 2000 documenting the condition. I don't understand.So now should I appeal on my on or hire an attorney? Also do anyone know if the percent an attorney charge in Alabama? Last question I have three kids, so if I won the appeals process, would the kids also get a check and if so how much?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Jennifer I had over a dozen hospital visits plus another dozen medical procedures not to mention MRI, CAT Scans, Nervrve conduction studies, Spinal Disc studies and two surgeries. One six hour surgery for my hip and one nine hour for my lumbar spine. I was still denied. Letters from your previous employer are always helpful and evaluations, showing you were a good employee. The leave of absence proves you were unable to work. As far as attorneys, get a Social Security Attorney. One in your city or county. Attorneys from your area know the Hearing Judges and how to prepare your case. Good luck. @ Stevo O, Social Security takes there sweet time. Remember I won in August and didn't receive my first check until October. As far as the 3 percent, I think it's just for regular Social Security, not Disability. Hang in there. @ Myre, they attorneys I believe charge the same percent in every state. They also only get paid when you win. However, you may have to pay for some records and if they interview your doctors. I paid but it was worth it in the end. Just do your homework on the Attorney you choose. To everyone, I've been in your shoes. Maybe god put me in this position to help as many people as I can with advise. I learned the hard way and it took me over three years and my sleepless nights. God bless all of you and keep fighting. I made a promise to Habee that just because I won I wouldn't stop fighting Social Security's broken system. My heart is with all of you. Bogey.

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      quietnessandtrust 5 years ago

      I did one of the top 10 deadliest jobs on the planet for over 20 years. When I went to apply, the case worker said "oh you do not have to explain yourself any further sir, the moment you mentioned what you did for a living and for the amount of years you did it, you will not have any trouble getting SSDI, my husband does the same line of work and I know all about it..."

      Needless to say, I was denied!!! Oh my. :-/

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Quietssandtrust, Social Security case workers have no authority to determine your case. That was wrong of him or her to say something so stupid. Just get a local Social Security Attorney in your area and file your appeal before the deadline. Sorry your another victim of a messed up system. Good luck and don't give up. Remember your just a case and a file to them.

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      purepotential 5 years ago

      Many thanks for the information.

      It took me nearly 6 months to even believe that the doctors were right, and I was not going back to work.

      The crisis for me was made real when they told me I was not well enough to do a test yet, which might help them give me a better treatment method. This was after 6 months of waiting. They would check me again in 4 months to see if I would be able to take the tests then. That was also when my savings ran out, so it was a double hit.

      I then accepted it and applied for disability. The doctor said he "would disapprove of disability in 9 of 10 cases, but my case was a little obvious."

      Four months later it still does not appear to be progressing much.

      I just went back in to the doctor for that "are you able to take the test exam." On the positive side, I am just beginning to be able to walk a short distance with a cane (20-30 feet), and can carry my oxygen tank with me now on my own.

      They are now checking me to see if they can run the tests without killing me.

      I find it strange that it takes so long to obtain disability, when one look can show it is pretty obvious.

      This month I am finally able to read some again, and I can write a little on the computer most days this month.

      Since I am unable to work, I wrote some advice on hubpages about how to deal with a major disability, and would appreciate feedback that would help me and others.

      https://hubpages.com/health/50-disabled-hints-part...

      Hope this helps, and thanks.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Hub Tub. If your case was approved in two months, how can you recommend an attorney group. Please. This site is to help fight Social Security not advertise for attorneys. The fact that you put a web site for an attorney group should tell anyone following this site your here to advertise not provide any helpful advice to people who are truly disabled and in need of help. Fighting Social Security is difficult enough. The people on this site don't need claims from someone who never even had to fight for disability benefits. As far as Habee having Law Groups on this page, it's her Hubpage.

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Bogey, glad to hear that spot was nothing! I swear, sometimes I'm afraid to go to the doc! lol

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      JJ, I'm, sorry, but I don't know the answer to your question. Maybe someone here will know the answer.

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Sophia, Bogey is awesome!! Thanks for reading!

      Sophialouise, why not just add it to your favorites?

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Foodstampmama, thanks for your kind words!

      Donna, if I were you, I'd try it on my own first. I'd hire a Social Security disability lawyer if your first appeal is denied.

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      I hope everyone here appreciates Bogey!! He's dealt with SS more than I had to. I was one of the lucky ones.

      A good friend was just denied SS and her first appeal. She has numerous problems, the worst of which is her hands. Her orthopedic hands specialist that she's been seeing for years wrote that her hands are "useless." SS sent her to one of their docs, a GP, and he disagreed with the specialist...of course. Social Security is weighing thier doc's diagnosis more than the specialist's?? That's crazy. She just hired an SSDI lawyer.

      I don't know what I'd do without Bogey! I'm having to pay someone now to type most of my hubs for me, due to my physical impairments. I do want to wish everyone luck, though, and please don't give up if you have a true disability!!

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Glad the spot was nothing and it's nice to see you posting. Sorry about your friend. I bet the Social Security Doctor never conducted any real tests to conclude her condition. My Social Security doctor never did any tests it's all opinion. Yet your doctors do tests and have documented proof. It's a shame.

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      mom thats going crazy 5 years ago

      Hello! I am trying to make sure I have everything in order for December of this year. My daughters case goes before the judge. They keep saying she is no longer disabled, but she has still has debilitation issues. They are not bad enough to stay on SSI! Why not? Please someone help me wtih this!

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @mom. Do you have a Social Security Attorney from your area? It's very important to have an Attorney to help you fight the system. These Attorneys know what the Hearing Judges want, the order they want it and how to stand up to a system that's messed up and difficult to understand. Good luck.

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      Lonnie 5 years ago

      It is great to hear all the stories out there and my husband and I are not the only ones experiencing SS nightmare issues. My husband applied for disability in May 2010...denied (of course) and had a hearing with an ALJ in June 2011. It took 8 weeks to get the decision, although we already knew that she was going to deny him because our representative from ALLSUP (a joke of a company) said that she denies everyone. We were flabbergasted when we received the letter of denial. Just to mention a few of the problems with the denial letter....the ALJ had the wrong date of his disability claim, she said March 2010 and it was May 2010. She had his correct birthdate but obviously can't do the math...stating that he was 49 but he is really 51. This is a biggie as after you are 50 you are considered harder to retrain. The ALJ told my husband in the hearing that he did not have Fibromyalgia because he was not diagnosed by a Rhumatologist...really??? How can a judge overrule a diagnosis by 2 other doctors, a pain specialist and a promary?? Needless to say, he went 3 days after the hearing to a Rhumatologist and YEP was diagnosed with Fibromyaliga. My husband was diagnosed in 2008 with probable malignant nodules in his right lung but they are unable to take a biopsy because of the location. He was also diagnosed with sever sleep apnea that the judge said he was cure of....hmmmm it is not cureable per a governmental website. In addition to the diagnosis mention previously, he had moderate stenosis of the spine, osteoarthiritis and bulging discs in the lumbar area. My husband has been in the construction industry for 35 years and has worked his ass off to provide for the family. Now that he can't work and filed the ALJ determined that there are jobs that he can do like a file clerk, mail sorter etc... Who in the hell wants a carpenter that has talked to a hammer, drill and nails for 35 years to come into an office environment and file??? Also, the letter stated that there were more than 35,000 of these jobs in Missouri....I am thinking NOT IN THIS ECONOMY!!! Needless to say, I sat down over a weeks time and wrote the appeal letter of a lifetime with documentation proving that the ALJ must be crazy and pointed out all of the inaccuracies of the information she used to determine his case. I was smart enough to send it registered return receipt and guess what...they can find a 20 document letter so now I have to fax it tomorrow with the signed receipt that they received it on Sept. 26, 2011. I just can't believe that this process is sooo screwed up! This is your tax dollars at work people!!! We need to get this governmental system together! Lonnie

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Lonnie have you looked for a private Social Security Attorney in you area to help you. You can always dismiss Allsup and go with any Attorney you choose. I had to change Attorneys during my case. I was on long term disability and the made me feel like I had to choose a group they recommended. What a mistake. When I went with an Attorney in my city, he explained that the long term disability companies make you feel this way and don't tell you the truth. It's your option to choose. From reading your post, a good Attorney would have prepared your husbands file correctly because he or she would have gone over it page by page with you. Also, local Attorneys know the Judges in you area. They go before them all the time. Also a local Attorney would have known what your Hearing Judge wants to know about your husbands condition and been able to fight the vocational expert. A person at your husbands age and condition can not be able to perform 35,000 jobs. That's just Social Security's excuse to turn people down. I'm sorry your going through this. Good luck to you and your husband.

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      safiyyah71 5 years ago

      Hello,

      I found this site when looking at issues with SSDI. I was diagnosed with Normal Pressure Hydrocephalus in July of 2010. Debilitating headaches, nausea, light sensitivity etc.

      I had a VP codman adjustable shunt placed in August of 2010. Everything was fine until June of this year when the headaches returned with the nausea. After testing that ran from June until last week, I was able to work maybe 7 days total and have not been able to work since August 31, of this year. I was tested earlier this year before the headaches returned was found to have a cognitive disability which goes back to a car accident I had in 1997. I have no short term memory and my processing skills are in the 10 to 20 percentile. The issue is I am now unable to work as they have adjusted my shunt as much as possible and my NPH symptoms are slowly returning such as gait, balance, etc.

      The neurologist today said due to all the factors he considers me disabled. He stated he would do what he needed to do do help me get SSDI as my condition in his expert opinion will not improve and to go along with this I have what is called collapsed ventricles. A lot of medical mumbo jumbo but I have been doing my research into my condition and I am hoping that I can get my SSDI approved without a long battle. This has already put considerable strain on my family and as of the 6th of November, my job will no longer be able to work with me under ADA. I realize my situation is just beginning but I am hoping by having as much medical documentation as I have, I won't have a hard time. I live in Idaho. I have already considered contacting a Social Security Lawyer as I am not mentally up to doing all the paperwork.

      Any suggestions or ideas on how to get off on the right foot would be appreciated. I personally hate dealing with the government. Also a question, would seeking state assistance as my husband has been reduced to part time status and I have not worked since August 31, 2011, would this affect a SSDI claim. I have five months of dealing with doctors that have my frustration level at maximum now as it is.

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      HubTub 5 years ago

      @Bogey - In response to your reply to my deleted post.

      @Hub Tub. "If your case was approved in two months, how can you recommend an attorney group. Please. This site is to help fight Social Security not advertise for attorneys. The fact that you put a web site for an attorney group should tell anyone following this site your here to advertise not provide any helpful advice to people who are truly disabled and in need of help. Fighting Social Security is difficult enough. The people on this site don't need claims from someone who never even had to fight for disability benefits. As far as Habee having Law Groups on this page, it's her Hubpage."

      My response to your comment:

      I am sorry you are offended by my deleted post. The reason I shared the attorney referral is because had I not had the assistance of this attorney, I more than likely would NOT have had my disability case approved, and so quickly at that. I was hoping to help anyone in my area find a good disability attorney to help them fight SSA, obtain their disability insurance, and get it done in a timely manner, as I was extremely fortunate to do. Are you implying that just because I didn't have to fight for years to get my benefits that I have no right to post my own experience and offer to help other people? An attorney is often times an excellent way to fight SSA, which is the obvious theme of this hub!

      I worked in the medical field for over 20 years, and I did so because I got great satisfaction out of helping others, and I still do, even though I am now permanently disabled due to a total quack of a doctor who performed a laser surgery on my back and ruined my spine and my life forever!

      My post had nothing to do with "advertising." I am in no way affiliated with this attorney other than the great service he did for me. I am not receiving kickbacks, commission, and I am not an affiliate marketer or a spammer. Again, I was simply trying to HELP other people. I am sorry you are too shallow to understand this.

      FYI: I, too, "fought" hard for my rights to obtain my disability. It just so happens I had a good attorney to help me through the process.

      Regarding your comment: "As far as Habee having Law Groups on this page, it's her Hubpage."

      I never made any reference to this in my deleted post, so I have no clue where you derived this notion.

      So, this is the thanks I get for trying to be helpful... a know-it-all who labels me as a spammer and accuses me of not "fighting" SSA?

      The next time I try and "help" someone, perhaps I will just keep my mouth shut!

      Good Day!

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      purepotential 5 years ago

      @hubtub

      I am just a passerby and thankful for this and other resources I have found.

      Please do not be discouraged from sharing or take to much offense when others do not appreciate what one was intending.

      I am too trying to give resources from things I have learned, and sometimes people seem to target me just because they think I am now vulnerable. It would be easy for me to think everyone is trying to do what only a few sneaky people are trying, or have succeeded in doing, to me.

      It is not my hub, but please realize the feeling of being preyed upon and assuming too much at times. If I may say, as I struggle too try to keep good humor as I traverse this journey, please also be encouraged and keep your faith in others as you also travel this path.

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      HubTub 5 years ago

      @purepotential - Very nicely stated...thank you! I found the information in this article very useful, as I was currently in the process of pursuing my own battle of fighting SSA for my disability insurance, even with the assistance of an attorney, and only recently got the good news that my disability application had been approved.

      As I felt the author of this hub did such an excellent job writing this article, I bookmarked it. I felt so blessed and fortunate after receiving my Notice of Award that I immediately wanted to "share my resource" with others, nothing else.

      The author of this hub deleted my original post. It is quite apparent that the author is very close to "Bogey," so it is no surprise to me why my post was deleted. I have no worries, however, as I know in my heart I tried to do the right thing, and that is all that truly matters to me.

      I will not be reading anymore of this author's hubs, however, due to what I feel was a poor choice on the author's part to delete a helpful post, and also based on what I believe to be deletion due to biased loyalty to another poster.

      Best of luck to you in your journey! I wish you well. :-)

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Safiyyah71. Very sorry to hear about your condition. If you have all your medical records and a Board Certified Neuroligist who agrees with your condition, I would make an appointment with a local Social Security Attorney. The reason I think you need an Attorney is because your disabilitys a very rare. I doubt it's on Social Security's list of impairments. A good Social Security Attorney will speak to your doctor and be able to provide more medical evidence into your condition. I have a condition that is very rare and Social Security knew very little about it. When I had my Hearing, Social Security's Doctor told the Judge, the original Social Security Doctors were wrong. My Attorney and Board Certified Neuoroligist were able to challenge the denial based on facts and Social Security's original doctor not being familure with my condition. So I think in your case talk with a local Social Security Attorney and see what they think. Good luck.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Hub Tub. My response was made because it seems odd that your post ended with a Law Group's web site. I have been on this Hub Page for over a year and the only time I have ever mentioned an Attorney or Law group was when someone asked if someone could recommend a Social Security Attorney in a specific area. I'm not here to fight with you or upset anyone. I'm on this Hub Page because I'm disabled and I had to fight Social Security for over 3 years. I'm here to give advise and support because I know what it feels like to fight Social Security, from filling out my original request, filing 2 appeals and going to a hearing before a Judge. If my comments offended you I'm sorry but I've seen to many disabled people get taken because they are desperate. This is a free Country and your free to express your opinion. This is not my Hub Page, I don't make money for trying to help people either. However, I do respect Habee and would never post a business without her permission.

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      HubTub 5 years ago

      @Bogey I, too, am not here to argue with anyone. Again, my link was for the purpose of a referral to an excellent attorney who helped me obtain my SSDI. I am also a HubPages member. I would never go to another person's hub and solicit spam. Furthermore, I need not ask someone's permission to post a link.

      Unfortunately, I can see where you, the author of this hub, and others might have construed my link as spam; however, that was certainly not my intention.

      I hope we can put this matter to rest now, make peace between us and let it go.

      Finally, I just wanted to mention that I was very adamant in the beginning about retaining an attorney to fight my SSDI case, as almost any SSDI attorney will charge you and keep 25% or 6,000.00, whichever is greater, of your SSDI benefits after your case has been settled. I decided I could do it on my own initially, and then though better of it. I decided that having an attorney on my side would be an advantage to getting through the system more quickly. I found an attorney, who, unlike most other attorneys, took my case before it even had a chance to get denied. My attorney explained to me that a lot of attorneys do not wish to take on an SSDI case until it is "ripe." They only want to jump in at the last minute, do the least amount of work, but then also keep a large portion of your benefits. Having a good attorney on your side from the very beginning is sometimes a very good way to get your benefits more quickly, so as to alleviate a nasty, long-term ordeal with SSA and get your benefits in a timely manner.

      Although I am elated to have received my disability benefits, I feel for each and every person on this board, as well as anyone else out there who is going through a difficult struggle trying to obtain their disability benefits.

      After working in the medical field as an OR nurse for 20+ years, I have seen every part of the human body, inside and out, from head to toe, and I can fully understand and appreciate what people are going through, believe me. It rips my heart out, and almost makes me feel guilty for getting my disability claim approved, after seeing all the suffering and pain I have read about on this board. However, I, too, have been left permanently disabled, after a disastrous laser spine surgery rendered me unable to work and to live each day of my life in bed, alone, and in constant pain. I worked with physicians for over 20+ years. It really adds insult to injury to know that one of my very "own kind" would be the one to maim me and essentially end my life.

      Please, everyone, continue to fight, hang in there and keep doing whatever you can to help yourself, as nobody can help you better than yourself. Again, I will be keeping all of you in my prayers and wishing the best for each and every one of you.

      Bogey, I am overjoyed to see that you persevered and finally obtained your disability benefits. I hope life gets easier for you, and for all of us. Peace to you, my friend.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Hub Tub I'm sorry that you and I are in the physical conditions were in. I just follow this site to provide answers to people fighting Social Security's broken system of determining who is disabled and who is not. I'm not an Attorney, I'm just one of the thousands of disabled people who had to fight the system. I do agree with you, having a Social Security attorney is very important. First they understand all the paperwork and what your doctors needs to provide to support your disability. I also agree, disabled people need to be very careful before they get an attorney. I found this out the hard way. Once I retained a Social Security in my city and discharged the group I was originally with, my entire life changed. I try to tell as many disabled people to do your homework and choose a local attorney. Hopefully you can help. I made a promise to Habee when I won my case I would continue to help as many people as I can. I write letters and will continue to fight for everyone. It's prety sad when to private companies found me disabled in a few weeks, yet Social Security only approved me because a Hearing Judge ordered it, over 3 years from the day I became injured. My Judge sent my approval letter out the day after my hearing. She also apologized to me for Social Security's errors. I'm sorry I over reacted to your post yesterday. I just get Social Security Attorneys sending me requests to refer people to them. I wish you the best. Keep fighting!

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      HubTub 5 years ago

      @Bogey Thank you! All is well between us, my friend! I totally understand your position and respect you so much for continuing to fight for others. I plan on doing the same! :-)

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      purepotential 5 years ago

      Did I read right? If you hire an attorney it will cost $6,000? When the amount you get for disability seems to be so small, that would be so much of it. A single person barely could get by on what I have been told is the rate a single person gets.

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      HubTub 5 years ago

      @purepotential Most SSDI disability attorneys work on this premise:

      Example: You win your disability case and you are entitled to say $10,000.00 worth of back benefits. The attorney will then take 25% of the 10K or $6,000.00, but not more than $6,000.00. So in this case, you would owe your attorney 25%, which is $2,500.00. God forbid if you were owed $40K in back benefits. The attorney would only be able to retain a maximum of $6,000.00, as 25% of $40k is $10,000.00, and the attorney is only allowed 25% or $6,000.00, but no more than $6,000.00.

      I hope I didn't confuse you! :-)

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      purepotential 5 years ago

      OK. So it is just the back part. That is probably why they do not want it until after you have been denied a few times. If they take it right away, the back amount would be much less.

      I have just started my request in May/June. Doctors told me long before I should apply but I just could not believe I could not do any work. I am highly educated and experienced, and I thought I could do many other things. So I kept trying other things until I finally realized that they were right, I could not work.

      Thanks so much for the clarification.

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      sophia 5 years ago

      i was curious... are you allowed to cancel your contract with your lawyer ??? as all they did was request papers, i sent many of them, and i had to get my own precription history for them, and now we just sit, and they are basically sitting for nothing... waiting for the hearing, and that is it... they don't even contact me, i have had them since july this year, and spoke with them 2 times..... i don't see anything on my contract about it... just seems a waste to give them a couple thousand, when i feel i don't even need them @ my hearing, as my daughter is my representive also, and she knows alot...

      thank you.... hope someone can help with this question....

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      HubTub 5 years ago

      @purepotential You're welcome! I can totally relate to your reluctance to accept you can't work anymore. It was a sad day for me when I realized the same.

      I am keeping my fingers crossed and praying for you, my friend!

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      HubTub 5 years ago

      @sophia I am not a lawyer and I am in no way giving any legal advice.

      Anyone can fire or discharge their attorney at any time they choose. However, you still may be responsible for paying the attorney you discharge for any work they have done up until the time you discharge them. In the case of SSDI, if you win your case, there is a very good possibility that the attorney you fired will put a lien on the monies you own him/her, and these monies will be deducted from your SSDI check before you are paid. This is one area that SSA checks before they give you any back pay, along with checking to see if you have defaulted on any government loans, if you owe back taxes with the IRS, etc.

      If I were you, I would discuss your case with your attorney and read over your contract again. If you don't win your SSDI case, many times the attorney does not get paid, but of course your goal is to win your case, and I am sure your attorney would want you to win as well; otherwise, your attorney won't get paid either.

      There is probably nothing that your attorney can do for you right now anyway, at least not until the date of your upcoming hearing. If your attorney has no news, chances are, you won't hear from your attorney. Don't give up. Keep fighting!

      Best of luck to you! Hope that was of some help.

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      safiyyah71 5 years ago

      @bogey than. ks for the response. I have an interview with a lawyer today. I discussed it with my husband and I know I do not have the energy or the needed mental concentration to handle all the paperwork. I will go from there. After doing research and reading about SS. made me think twice of doing it on my own. I also had a friend who went through the process and she recommended an attorney also.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Safiyyah. Good luck, I think you made a wise decision.

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      Afraid888 5 years ago

      I am trying for disability and was denied on my first try, I have a lawyer but I feel that he is not doing all he could be to help me. He tells me that he has a backlog of hundreds of others before me. I have to do all the legwork and make sure he gets all the reports and files I get. Am I doing something wrong or is this normal.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Afraid. My attorney or his assistants would call me from time to time and ask for updates, have me sign papers and check on me. They did everything as far as preparing my case for my appeal or hearing. If you feel your attorney is not giving you what you deserve, you can go with another attorney. Just find a new Social Security Attorney in you area. Go speak to him or her. They can't say much because you are being represented by an Attorney. However, they can provid you with the information to dismiss your current Attorney. Its very easy. You send a certified letter, "stating you want to dismiss them as your Attorney". Once you get the returned green card from the post office you can you bring the card to your new Attorney and he or she can take your case. I only know this because I changed Attorney groups. Good luck.

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      lb 5 years ago

      My husband was denied 3 times. Hired an attorney representative out of California Jay Starr. He was incredible when my husband saw the judge. My husband is 47 with numerous issues including a knee replacement and another on the way with ostio arthritis. He has worked his whole life and was injured to the point of unable to do much. We were finally approved over a month ago, but have not received anything but an approval letter. I am unsure why they approve you and then they make you wait to receive benefits for so long. We called SS and they said yes you are approved but did not know anything else. What a game they play with your life and your mind. I know someone who works for SS and said she is shocked by the claims that are turned down. She herself who is now fighting SS. I don't think that they really read peoples claims and go right to the denial. I wrote our congresswoman and it did help with getting to see a judge quicker. We showed up without an attorney and were told to come back with one and they will reschedule our court date. We did, we got a favorable decision but have not received any benefits. Why does it take so long from the approval date?

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      safiyyah71 5 years ago

      @Bogey, to be perfectly honest I have had experience dealing with the government when my husband applied for his greencard (very long story) but let us say it was a year long experience made that way by a paperwork bungle by the government so as I said have had my experience enough to make you once bitten twice shy.

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      lb 5 years ago

      I have a question about children's benefits. Since my husband was approved and my son would have been 17 at the disability determination date, would my son be entitled to back pay. I have read on some sites that he would but I am unclear on how to go about this. Does anyone have a similar issue?

      Thanks

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      pmn 5 years ago

      Hello, I read your storie and that helps me out alot. I have always been one to want to work. So when I got a job at walmart, I planned on staying there till I retired. Was gonna try for managment postion. I had been there for 4 years, I loved my job. But this past year it was all swept out from under me. I started to have numbness and tingling and increased pain from the neck all the way down my back, to the point that it would start to affect my job performance, not able to lift cant sit very long. Now I cant sit at all I dont walk much and im on pain medication, lyrica, zanaflex and medicine for my legs which stay on fire all the time. Every bone in my body hurts and joint. I get depressed cause Im not able to do alot of the things that I use to do or play with my son any physical activity puts me in the bed. I was diagonsed with multilevel degenerate disc disease of the cervical spine and lumbar spine after getting mri. I also have cervical spondalosis, ashtma high blood pressure and osteoarthritis. alot of times I am very lethergic during the day because of pain tires me out. I currently have a disability lawyer, and am waiting on the hearing to go before the judge. My laywer said I shouldnt have any problem of getting approved. But I dont like the idea of having to be on it, cause I have always wanted to work. I sit and cry alot because somedays I hurt so bad I cant get out of bed. I hate asking my family to help me with housework and cooking cause I have always wanted to be the one to do the cleaning and the cooking. Its been 6 months now hopefully I will get a letter in the mail soon to appear before the judge and hopefully ill get approved.

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      purty1gal2 5 years ago from Port Saint Lucie, Florida

      Hi Everyone,

      I'm a 36 year old happily married woman with 4 children, 18, 14, 12 and 1.

      I had to leave my job in Feb of 2010 due to health reasons and did not have insurance. Finally, in January of 2011, the pain was so bad in my left leg, I could barely stand, walk or move. I sought out assistance from a Chiropractor because I could pay cash. He worked with me for several weeks but was unable to even adjust me because of the pain. Finally, my husband's insurance went into effect in late February of 2011. I immediately sought medical care and was referred to a Neurosurgeon that ordered an MRI and due to a 16mm compressed disc, after my appointment that Tuesday, I was on the operating table that Thursday for a Laminectomy to remove the disc. I recovered initially from that surgery and after about two months began to experience many of the same symptoms and went for my follow up and was referred by the PA in the Neurosurgeons office to a Pain Management Clinic. Two more months went by and I again went back for a follow up and saw the Neurosurgeon who initially operated on me and from the level of pain, he knew something was wrong. I had CAT scans, more Xrays and another MRI confirming that my L4 L5 vertabrae were unstable and causing the pain and symptoms in my legs. I also told him about the severe cramping in my hand whereas it goes into a claw like form and I have to press down on a hard surface to try to straighten out my hand. He said I needed another surgery (spinal fusion) with plates, screws and a cage to stabilized my spine which I had done 9/22/10. In between the two surgeries, I also noticed blood in my urine and had a bladder biopsy and have chronic bladder inflammanation and likely Interstiscial Cystitis in which I was placed on more meds. I hired an attorney in my area that only does SS disability cases to help me through the paperwork. I got my first denial paperwork the day I got home from having my fusion done.... nice, right? The denial letter stated that I was able to perform some type of work. I don't see how because of my strong pain meds that make me unable to care for my young son without assistance. We appealed the decision and the attorney says I will know within 60 days if I am approved. My situation has now changed because I am in a back brack, cannot sit upright for more than 45 minutes, cannot even lift my own son or be left alone with him, cannot bend, lift or twist. Prior to being injured I worked in 2 call centers as a supervisor and trainer requiring constant motion, bending, standing and sitting for long periods of time for 10 years. Has anyone had any similar health issues and was approved and I'm wondering why it's only 60 days to hear back. The paperwork from the Attorney said if I get a denial letter again to contact his office right away to set a court date. Is that what takes so long? I don't know how I've gotten this far, this fast or so it seems compared to others on here. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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      lb 5 years ago

      @purty1gal2 I am not sure where you are located but I am in California. It seemed like we had to keep waiting long periods of time in between denials. Every time we appealed we had to go online and answer the same exact questions over and over. I called SS but I was told that they just pretty much look for some criteria and if it's not there it gets denied. I got tired of the run a round so I e-maile Jackie Speier's office(our congress woman). Within a few days I received a call from one of her staffers that deals with SS. He asked me to fax a release to him and my SS paperwork. I was skeptical but within a week we received a court date. I had never done something like this before but we felt helpless and needless to say I was very impressed by the quick response. My husband did receive a favorable decision and now we wait to receive payments. I e-mailed her office again regarding payments. We shall see what happens from here as far as getting payment quicker. I suggest writing your congress about your issue at the least they can help speed up the process. There are links on their site that refer to SS issues and you can e-mail from there. I think that when you finally get to see a judge you would get a favorable decision. It sounds like you have a lot going on and it would be a crime to deny you. When my husband saw the judge he made a comment about his age (47), that he had higher than a highschool education and that he wasn't in a wheelchair. He didn't even let the expert examiner called in by the court speak. We thought for sure he would be denied and were going to have to go back to court but within a week received a favorable decision. Our representative knew who this judge was and said he was a hard ass and it was going to be hard to get a favorable decision, but we did. Hooray! Don't give up, that's what they want you to do. I really feel that is the reason they have you keep repeating the same paperwork over and over. Many people do give up and just go away BUT DON'T! Keep pushing and write your congressman/woman. Good Luck to you.

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      lb 5 years ago

      @Ian- WOW I hope nothing ever happens to you and you are put in the same situation as many of these people. Your comment in not appreciated and if you don't know details of someones situation you should just not reply or even be on this site. Maybe you work for SS.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @ IB, if the disability for your husband began before your child's 18th birthday, you child will receive a lump sum check and a monthly check until your child is 18 or completes high school. So if your husband became disabled in October 2009, and won in October 2011, you will get 18, months back pay for your child plus a monthly check. @PMN, just hang in there. The system is slow. If your doctors agree with your disability and your attorney is good, you should be fine when you have your hearing. @Purty1Gal, I had lumbar fusion from my L2 toS1 plus hip replacement surgery. Social Security's own definition is you must be able to work 40 hours a week 8 hours a day. If not your disabled. With your condition and the medication Social Security won't be able to put you back to work. Just don't give up. Good luck to everyone and try to stay strong.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      Why is someone like Ian on this site? Amazing how someone who doesn't know any of us or anything about our health, can judge. I guess trying to make people feel bad makes a coward feel good. Maybe if Ian could read he or she would be able to understand what injuries and being disabled is. To everyone on this site, I apologize for the post by a true coward. To all who are disabled and dealing with your disability I pray for your health and the benefits you deserve. To Ian, I had a career before becoming injured. My disability check is $4,000.00, a month less then my job paid me. I worked longer than you've probably been alive. Everyone on this site would surely chose to be healthy and working over being disabled and judged by people like you. Regardless, this is a free country and if you feel good putting disabled people down go ahead because the bottom line is your opinion of us means nothing. To all of Habee's followers, god bless you. To Ian, this country is a mess because of idiots who ran our country into a trillion dollar mess, not disabled Americans.

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      lb 5 years ago

      @ Bogey- My husband became disabled 2 days before his 17th birthday. I never mentioned it to my representative because my son is now 20. Do I need to fill out papers or something? Thanks for you input

      And I agree about Ian not to sure why he would be on this site calling people pathetic. If you ask me he is pretty lonely and pathetic if he is surfing a SS blog. He must have some kind of motive. That would be like me going on a blog on how to fight Aliens lol. To each his own but still a little strange he would have an interest in a subject that doesn't affect him YET.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      IB, you son should get approximately six months. Depending on your husbands Benifit, the amount is different for every person. Once you receive all the Social Security approval letters you and him will have to go to your local office. While there bring your son's birth certificate and Social Security card. Bring your marriage certificate and your identification because even though your husband is being awarded, the mother has to fill out the paper work for the children. I received a call after receiving my letter and they scheduled me for an appointment. My wife had to do all the paper work for our children, even though I'm the disabled person. I don't know why it's that way. Good luck.

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Hot Tub, I deleted the post - not Bogey. I did so because those kind of links are frowned upon by Hubpages. Sorry.

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      lb 5 years ago

      @Bogey-Thanks so much for the information. Your awesome

      @habee-Glad you deleted Ian as well :)

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Safiyyah, I don't understand why the government makes things so difficult. I use to joke with my Attorney that they must own stock in paper companies. I think Social Security likes killing trees and keeping paper companies in business. It's getting so difficult to navigate Social Security alone. Just watch TV during the day and you will see Social Security Attorney commercials all day. Scary! My only advise is do your homework, and choose a local Social Security Group. Stay away from these large groups that promise the world and only see you when you sign with them and when you have your hearing. If you google some of the groups you can read the reviews of these groups. A lot of negative feed back on the big groups. My Attorney had a small practice and very good reputation. They were very organized and kept me informed during the entire process. I don't have to tell you about the stress. It's nice when your treated like a person not a file. Good luck, don't let Social Security bring you down. I know it's tuff. Just be prepared and try to stay positive.

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      Afraid888 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

      I was wondering if anyone here ever got a doctor to write a letter to SS to confirm a disability. I had asked my Orthopedic doctor to write a letter for me but he said that all he could say was that I had problems walking and that he doesn't want to get involved with the paperwork. What do I do now????

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      purty1gal2 5 years ago from Port Saint Lucie, Florida

      @ IB, I live in Port Saint Lucie, Florida and have a competent attorney. I meant to say my surgery date was 9/22/11 so just 3 weeks ago and when I filled out the pain questionairre, I was 3 weeks out of surgery so things looked worse than the last one I filled out 2 months before that because my pain meds are doubled and the relieving symptoms part, I put I needed periods of rest as well as medication and then listed all the side effects of the morphine and percocet which isn't pretty. I'm praying that at this level I get approved. My nerrosurgeon is completely onboard and in agreement with my being disabled and unable to ever sit/stand, bend/lift/twist or work a fulltime job. I'm really dreading the whole court thing because im sure it's my age that's causing my denials even though i've worked since I was 14. Once my back is fixed I am going to eventually need surgery on the discs in my neck to stop the symptoms in my hand anf for now they are doing epidural injections in the meantime. I never thought in a million years scrubbing grout for my son's big 1 year old party would turn into this....

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Afraid. The letters are good for your file and are very helpful at your hearing. However, you MUST have a doctor who is 100 percent on your side and is willing to help you. I had several of my doctors write letters and one gave a sworn statement to my attorney explaining my entire medical history and how I met Social Security's own definition of disability. Your doctor has to support you and your condition causing you to be disabled. If you have to, find another doctor. Check with your Social Security attorney he or she may refer you to a doctor who can help. I have 8 doctors and for some reason 1 wouldn't talk to my attorney. Good luck.

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      lb 5 years ago

      @purty1gal2- Well good luck at least you have a good attorney. The things we do as mother's that we would never think would harm us.

      I wish you the best.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Purty1Gal2, the Hearing Judges, Attorneys and Doctors understand that your pain levels are going to fluctuate. They don't like to hear people say I'm always in pain and can't do anything. Your human. Your going to have good days when your pain levels are controlled by your medications and your going to have bad days. When I had my Hearing, I was 5 months post spinal fusion from my L2 to S1. When I filled out my original Social Security paper work I put my back hurt but the pain level wasn't even close to 3 years prior to my operation. During my endeavor I had so many medical procedures and surgeries I can't even remember. Just be honest, trust your Attorney and your medical documents will speak for you. The day before my hearing I asked god for a favor. Plese give me a fair Judge and make sure the Judge reads my medical file. During my hearing, the Judge would ask me questions and say my doctors names. Since I have 8 doctors, I knew my Judge read my file and knew my answers were consistent with all my doctors. I hope you get the same result. Social Security Disability is such a mess for many reasons. One problem is medical reports not supporting a persons disability and people not being honest with there condition. I won't go into all the other problems because I would be here until next week. Stay strong and I wish you good luck.

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      Afraid888 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

      I got an e-mail today from my Sate Senator and he told me that when my attorney files my appeal he will fax over a letter to the ajudication area and let them know he has an interest in my case. That was the best news I had had in a long time. I just hope that his letter will make a difference for me.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Afraid, that is good news. Just make sure you find a doctor who will support your condition. The bottom line is no one knows your condition and can support your disability then your doctor. On your previous post you stated your doctor wouldn't talk to your attorney. That worries me. Talk to your attorney. He or she will tell you, without your doctors support your case is not very strong. I truly believe my Neuroligist's support is the reason I won my case. He is Board Certified since 1983, he treated me for 3 years and he was 100 percent confident I was disabled. He also had a mountain of medical records to support his opinion. My Hearing Judge gave him far more credit then the Social Security doctor who examined me. My doctor's sworn statement of my condition was even confirmed by the Social Security doctor at my hearing. In addition, my doctor's reputation in my City is outstanding. My Attorney was very familure with him and told me, if your doctor agrees your disabled you will win your case.

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      sophia 5 years ago

      @ HOTTUB- (ps. love your name, as i love hot tubs.... eases away your pain )

      thank you for your response... It was a big help, and someone else had told me the same thing.. I know i would owe the lawyer something, but i figured a few hundred is better than a few thousand...

      just they seem to contridicate themselves with some of the things they say, and i feel the waiting game for them to just appear at a hearing is awful... i didn't get a attorney, until i was denied... and i signed the papers, then my daughter yells @ me that i should not of signed them.. ugh, haha.. not funny, but have to have humor when in the waiting stage....

      thank you so much.... any other advice you have is more than welcome... :) god bless,,,,

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      Sophia 5 years ago

      I also wanted to say that in the past I had a great attorney, and I respect all that they do... really..... Just this attorney has not done the things she said she would, and even changed my paralegal and didn't even tell me. Communication is poor... I just feel that I need the money much more than they do, as I am close to bankruptcy, and waiting for hearing... So I could use the money I am entitled too... I have been in nursing for 26 years, and can no longer work due to serious health problems...

      the system let me down, and refused me everything, as far as free or reduced meds, fuel, food, everything... really hurts when you worked ALL your life, and to be denied.... Just not right... for me, and for everyone else.... thank you all for such wonderful learning posts....

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      Sally 5 years ago

      WHAT A GREAT SITE. "Some one please help me"I have waited 3 years to see the judge which was Aug/21/2011 about 10 weeks ago..I have heard nothing and if it is a bad decison from him the only way out for me is suicide..Has anyone eles waited this long ? I have lost everthing,husband,home,car and any means of support..If I could just hear anything form someone that has a clue about this it would be deeply apprecitated..I dont know if I can keep this up much longer I havent seen a doctor in 6 months and all meds have been gone for 4 months(psych meds) Bi-polar,Angorphobia,angzity..Lost

      God please help me

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Sally, I won my case on August 19, 2010. It was a Bench Decision which is very rare. Needless to say it still took Social Security until October to notify me. Now my Judge told me I won to my face, sent me a letter the next day in the mail yet every time I called Social Security they wouldn't tell me anything. Since you didn't have a Bench Decision, you Hearing Judge has to write an explanation of his or her decision. The letter has to be approved by a higher Judge, then sent to Social Security. So my guess is, the Bench Decision saved me at least a month of waiting maybe more. If you have an Attorney check with him or her. They get paid before you do, so they may know what's going on. That being said 10 weeks is not as long as most cases. Sorry, good luck and don't give up.

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      FIRST OF ALL I LOVE THIS SITE.I've read a ton of these different sites when i was battleing my back issues surgeries and as of today 4 herniated discs.So I didn't mess around and I hired a attorney right off(local here in Vermont started july of 2010 actual paper work but have been disabeled since 4/2009)and of course i got turned down the first time the lawyer told me to appeal so i did got turned down within 60 days for the 2nd time(which he said is totaly normal believe it or not) and thats when they kick in and start there job because its the actual hearing for the 3rd time so he had me schedualed for oct 26th 1 week ago today.just the judge court lady and my lawyer and me thats the only people that were there.The Judge asked me some very basic ?'s and about 20 minutes later we finished. Upon leaveing my lawyer was ear to ear smileing and he said did you hear the judge at the end i looked at him and said not really the laywer told me they 98% of the time never say yes or no your approved but this judge pretty much told me in his way that I'm 95% sure you are approved from his experiences with this judge!! So I'm in the waiting process for the letter etc.Now I'm excited to find out.I told my aunt who got disability a few years back and she said that after she was approved like i was she had her checks coming in within like 2 weeks????back money owed to her and they were broken up into 3 big checks?? NOW MY ? HERE IS does every state work differntly because of work loads?? like i'm in vermont so were small compared to say like florida etc is that why my aunt got it so quick compared and are my chances of getting it that quick close to that or is every case that different hmmmmmmmmm

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      I just received the papers to fill out for my reconsideration. If I went to the SS office, would they give me a copy of what they have on me so far?

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      Afraid888 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

      Has anyone on this site ever used Binder and Binder. I am strongly considering using them as my lawyer has told me he only took the case because of our family. I really don't need to go through this humiliation from doctors and now my lawyer if there is no way to win this case. Please help.

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      sally 5 years ago

      Sir you statement was 10 weeks is not a long enough wait for a decision to be be made from the judge...Is this common and if so what is the process for the courts to render a decision from your understanding ? I need to see a Doctor for my med and theres no way I can pay any amount to vist a clinic or by meds .I'm near homeless and to come up with 20.00 dollars is impossible for me.If anyone reading this form has experienced the same situation PLEASE tell me ..In desperate need

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      Gary 5 years ago

      Hi Sally, I know how you feel. If you do feel the urge of suicide, call 911 and have them take you to the county hospital. There, they can admit you into the ED, and have a psychitrist look at you. Woory about you first, money later, I will pray for you, Sally.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Frickfrac, it is a Federal system but every City, State and County are different because of the number of cases. Thank you Gary for you support. To everyone, Social Security is a messed up system. Don't let them get the best of you. Fight to the end. Find Attorneys who believe in you, your disability and your doctors. If you can't afford a doctor go to the local hospital. Just keep records of everything. Dates, times, names of doctors and hospital. Good luck to everyone. @Sally, there is no standard time line. I received my letter of approval 10 weeks after the Judge made a Bench Decision. In your case the Judge did not make a Bench Decision, so I feel it's going to take you longer to find out the decision. Sorry, that's just my opinion. I'm not an Attorney, I'm just a person who went through the entire process. Over 3 years to win my case. I hope I'm wrong and you receive your letter tomorrow. Stay strong and good luck.

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      so i called a week exactly after my hearing and thank god i got someone in a vermont office there so polite up here and the lady set me up for direct deposit (my lawyer told me to incase) and she tolld me that my paper work was sent to Baltimore 2 days after my hearing on oct 26th?? she said its still pending and shes not sure but usualy when it goes there thats the process of figureing out payments and stuff..wondering if this is true and if it means the judge signed off for a approval??

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      Madeline from Florida 5 years ago

      Everything you guys that live in Florida are saying about this state is true. I filed for Soc.Sec and had been denied two times I am appealing again I now is the hearing process, they even cut my medicaid because I have high income , this is ridiculous, because I receive 674.00 for my disable kid that they are reviewing it again because they want to cut his too, and 200 dollars on child support I am over in my income what is happening in this state. Who lives with this income? I told them I pay 650.00 in rent, like 300 in utilities, 75 dollars in cell phone and gas and everything that leaves me with almost nothing but they don't care, know with out medicaid I can have treatment for my fibro because my reumatologist and neurologist don't take that share cost medicaid I have, so now I am worst with my condition, I am in chronic pain 24/7,I am always sick, with fatigue, my hands are always swelling, numb, also my legs and feet, my neck hurts, shoulder, I can't even lift a piece of paper, open a bottle of water or of anything, I cant hold my cell phone more than 10 minutes, because it hurts, I can't do my groceries with out help, do my hair with out my daughters help, I am havig problem even driving one time my leg got numb and could not feel it at all and got scared because I couldn't move it to push the break and stop the car and I had to used my left foot and do it it scare the crap out of me,and write now is hurting my hand writing all this, I can't be standing more than 15 minutes that I will need to sit down quickly or my knees will start to tremble and I will fall if i don't do it fast, and if I sit for more than 15 minutes my knee start to hurt me very badly, my right hand is always numb and in pain constantly even with medication ,I cant sleep because of the pain, cant walk because I injured my calf because of this fibromyalgia, and no government seems to care about nothing, this government employee treat you like garbage on the phone and in person, this is humiliating. I had been a teacher for 6 years have work for a long time, I did not ask for this disease, I wish I don't feel this bad so I can go back and work and support my two kids, but I really cant, this is so sad, and now I been treated for a severe depression I have, who won't be depress with all this coming in your life at once?, is overwhelming. sometimes I think that is better to be dead that suffering all this, with out no help, and nobody caring or helping. :-(

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      acruz 5 years ago

      first i would like to thank bogey fo all his help.

      i have another question i hope you can help me with..

      my back pay will be offset because of a workmans comp settlement, i was awarded 25 thousand dollars workers compensation lump sum 4 years ago only got 19 thousand dollar after lawyers fee,so i got 19 thousand dollars total,, will ssdi offset the whole 25k or just the 19k i actually received,thank you in advnce

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Acruz, I think they go by what workers comp paid you not by how much your lump sum is. I never received workers comp so I don't have an exact answer. Your attorney might be able to help. @FrikFrac, it's tough to say what Social Security is doing. I do know they send files from one state to another for review. As far as your payment and any lump sum I don't know where they determine that. I just remember getting a letter telling me my amounts and then making an appointment with my local office to fill out some forms. After that they sent my Medicare Card first, then my monthly check and then my lump sum. @Madeline, it is a very mess up system. I live in Florida a went through every level before being approved by a Hearing Judge and it took over three years. It sucked to put it nicely. How long ago did you start the process and do you have a local attorney? I know it's easy for someone not in your position to say hang in there and be strong, but you have to. Do it for you and your family. Also what part of Florida are you in? Some of the larger Counties are much slower then the smaller Counties. Let us know and try to stay strong. @Affraid I have seen Binder and Binder on TV. I would use a local Attorney from your area. These big groups will sign you and then send an Attorney you never met to your hearing. I have heard to many cases where people met their Attorney on the day of their hearing. Also the Attorney wasn't even from their city/state. It's up to you but my Attorney met with me on many occasions, had people from his office contact me for updates and prepare me for my Hearing. Also if they needed doctors reports I could hand deliver them, which saved time and money. In addition, my Attorney knew my doctors from his years of handling cases. These things are very important. The last thing you want is your Attorney not preparing your case they way you Hearing Judge wants it. A local Attorney will know all the Judges because they go before them everyday. My Attorney knew my Judge and told me what she wants and how she conducts her hearings. He knew I won my case before the Judge made a ruling just by they way she asked questions and when she dismissed the vocational expert and only let the doctor speak. He told me this after the hearing. Just choose wisely. Good luck everyone. Keep fighting and god bless all of you.

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      LeslieJ 5 years ago

      I just applied for Social Security Disability in July, they sent me to their doctor in September and I just got a letter saying they have found that I meet their medical rules but they have not decided whether I meet their non-medical rules and they will make a decision soon and I will get a letter explaining their decision, just curious what that might mean for me?

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      JonJ 5 years ago

      Well I am a 34 yr male and back last year 10-10-10 I had a unclear diagnosis of M.S I went to the local ssi office and told them what was going on.. That was here in Fla. I was informed that if I had the paperwork showing that I had M.S I would not have to worrie about anything..It would all be takeing care of. Well I Had a child of only 2 mo. old at this point and I was going though alot. I got a letter telling me to go to one of there Dr's well the day before the appt. I had a death in the family my step dad died in the house.. I really was not thinking about anything then.. I was forced to move so I packed up my wife and son and we moved to Alabama There I had no choice but to get a job. I worked for 21/2 weeks and I got really weak at work and almost passed out. They to me to the hospital and did some test and yep it was the M.S I had to go see a Neurologist And a great one did some test and more Mri's then all the Med's started Rebif and all kinds of pills.. Now because of all the waiting and the bad luck I could not go back to work. My wife was expecting again and no work ran out of money so we had to ask for help and now we are back in Fla. We just had our little girl on Oct 21st. I am still not able to work. now we have 2 kids. And the hold up now is the last D.r they sent me to the shrink went out of town after she seen me I am sorry I meant of of the country. And she did not send the papers 1st. So the 2 weeks I was told it would happen in has now been over a mo. Now here in Fla they want to send me to there Dr.. I have to hold on but I can't I have to find a way to support my kids..

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      Afraid888 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

      At least I got some good news the other day. My Orthopedic doctor and his associate told me he would sign off on papers to say I am disabled and can not even drive or sit up for very long. I am waiting for my records to be mailed to me so I can continue with my lawyer. I know I still have to wait for my hearing but SS told me that if the evidence is strong enough, I may not have to have the hearing. I am hoping for more good news. Thanks to all who support me on my journey.

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      lb 5 years ago

      Playing the waiting game once again. My husband was approved 6 weeks ago. We spoke with the attorney and he said his file went to Baltimore due to his age. He said that Baltimore is one of the biggest offices and are probably backed up. We were also told that SS workers use to work a ton of overtime to get files completed and now they are told they need to do it within the 8 hours of work time. No overtime. Apparently this is why they are so backed up. My representative said his file is probably sitting on a desk with some guy who has his feet up trying to figure out his own retirement lol. The problem now a days is people just don't do their job. It seems like wherever you go you have to redo everything you do or make 10 calls to get anything done. Whatever happened to doing things right the first time or not being lazy. People's lives are depending on their payments to be sent immediately and their cases to be heard. No one wants to have to keep calling to get updates only to be told they can't tell you anything and don't want to go the extra mile to help you out. Instead of being told that SS needs to be cut they need to cut the workers that don't want to do their jobs. So here we wait again 3 years into this. Good luck to everyone and just keep playing the waiting game that's all we can do.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Jon I know it stinks but it's a very long process. Also every time you go back to work, Social Security uses it against you. You have to be out of work for 6 consecutive months and expected to miss a year or more. Also don't believe a word Social Security case workers say. They will say anything to make you think your going to win. They have no say in determining your case. I really think you should speak with a Social Security Attorney because of your age. I was 41 when I became disabled and my Attorney told me the only reason I was denied was my age. Good luck. @ Affraid that's great news. @ IB don't look at like that and I will tell you why. Files at every level get sent all over. If your husbands file is an approved file it just needs a signature. Most files need doctor reviews, vocational reviews and approval or denile signatures. My file went to Atlanta for a denile appeal. Your past all that. It just needs to be signed off and sent back. You are correct about Social Security being to most mismanaged and worst operated organization in the country. As far as talking to them over the phone they won't tell you anything. I even told them I'm holding my approval letter I will fax it to you and they just told me we don't see anything on the computer. I know that's a lie because they have a bar code scan on every page. Just hang in there. Maybe you will have good news before you know it.

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      FRIKFRAC 5 years ago

      hearing on oct 26th got my letter of fully favorable today nov.4th WOW 9 days I was so nervous.you might have to go through the 2 denials but once you have a hearing and ALWAYS have a lawyer(just a disability laywer the bigger the firm means nothing),,,not sure if its because i live in a small state (VERMONT)..Now its the horrible wait of waiting for cash to pay off everyone and all the billsssssss...ughhh

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      @lb ooohhh god thats were my papers have been since october 28th.I think there all on computer wouldn't you???? how long have yours been at that place lb?

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      Carrie D 5 years ago

      Hi, I just found this HUB!

      I believe that habee is the moderator, but please anyone if you can help, please jump in at any time!

      Here is my story:

      I am now 47 years old. At the time of applying for SSDI, I was 46. I was experiencing troubles with my hands and elbows (which would shoot pain up to my shoulders and neck. I already have existing high blood pressure, anxiety, depression, insomnia, TMJ, and migraines.

      I am divorced. I relocated to the state of Indiana from Tennessee. I have two biological children (adults both in their mid-20). I had both children naturally -- no locals or epidurals for either!

      Migraines since age seven -- but documented only in the past 20 years.

      TMJ/TMD – Temporomandibular joint disorder – that is where your jaw connects together. I have had an arthroplasty surgery done to repair the disks on both sides about 10 years ago. Now the joint is giving me troubles again.

      Sleep disorder since birth (my Mom said that I came home from hospital sleeping only 3 hours per day) -- there in was told in my later years that I should have been diagnosed with being ADHD, too. Therefore, I have only slept 3 hours (yes, in total, since birth) per 24 hours; diagnosed in the past 20 years.

      My medical doctors have tossed around the depression for the past 20 years as well.

      Anxiety has been something just recently in the past 5 years. I guess it is something that just has crept up. I have always been "backwards and shy" or consider an "outsider" or "someone who stands in the outer edges of the room and watches the crowd". I do not like being where there is a big crowd, not even if it is my family. Never wanted to be the center of attention. Just have always said, "I do not like people". I am very much happier to stay at home than be anywhere else! Introverted rather than extroverted, if you want it! LOL Crowds scare me! I have other "issues" too...getting lost easy --then the anxiety kick in and I have a panic attack --then getting angry because I got lost in the first place! Thing such as that. Those things are becoming more frequent. Therefore, I just stay home to avoid people and getting lost (or whatever).

      High Blood Pressure -- I am tall (5 feet, 9 inches), skinny (130 to 150 lbs -- is usually my weight pattern), BUT the HBP is inherited from my family -- everyone (almost) has the HBP, therefore I was unlucky to have it as well, diagnosed within the last 20 years as well too.

      The documentation of the above should be extensive throughout the last 20 years of my life in all my medical records easily obtained from my primary care physician (or family doctor).

      My PCP (primary care physician) sends me to a neurologist for my insomnia. The neurologist decides that he want to treat the migraines first, instead of the sleeping problems. Therefore, the migraines should be well documented once again for the past year. He finally says that I need to go to a headache clinic in Chicago, Illinois because he can no longer help me.

      I am being sent to a hand specialist for my hands. Carpal Tunnel AND Cubital Tunnel is the decision that was made. On both arms and hands. THEN, I am told that my left thumb has to be fused because there is a cyst in the bone and the joint is bone against bone. I did have some type of surgery on my left thumb about 10 years ago for pain in the thumb joint, it was not fused, but that was for arthritis. Which I find out is what is wrong with my right thumb, but much worse. There is major deterioration in the muscles of both of my hands because of the Carpal Tunnel and the Cubital Tunnel. Oh, by the way, Cubital Tunnel, for those of you who do not know, is Carpal Tunnel of the elbow. It is the pinching of the nerves in (and could be above the elbow too) elbow area. I have an ugly scar that is about 2 inches below my elbow joint and about 5 inches above it – and you notice it when I wear short-sleeved shirts!

      Okay – I have had the Carpal Tunnel and Cubital Tunnel surgeries on the left hand and arm. I have had the Carpal Tunnel and a Trigger Finger on the right hand. Was scheduled to have the right thumb fused.

      I usually work two very physical jobs (the last jobs were part-time and then a full-time) and was attending graduate school working on my Masters’ degree. I took a lay-off from one job and working the part-time job (which is my primary job—because it had my medical benefits). I was pulling unemployment payments from the lay-off and working my part-time job.

      I took a medical leave from my part-time job. Benefits included a “short-term disability”. The unemployment stopped due to my taking medical leave because of the surgery. My “short-term” benefits did not kick in until after my “vacation” pay weeks were paid out completely.

      In the end, I had troubles with the insurance company paying the stupid “short-term” benefits throughout the complete medical leave!

      CURRENT ISSUES:

      I am still employed with my part-time job.

      I have filed for SSDI. I currently waiting of the HLJ for the Hearing, I have an attorney.

      I did not get the surgery to fuse my right thumb because the therapist kicked me out of physical therapy “due to the fact that I was not making the progress that the insurance company thought I should be for the second surgery (which was on the right hand). Therefore, the insurance company suspended my medical insurance, the “short-term” disability board “deemed” me ready to go back to work and denied my third appeal for “short-term payment”; the doctor released me back to work with restrictions of “one-handed light-duty”; my job does not have “light-duty” work of any type for my position.

      THEREFORE, I am unable to go back to work – BECAUSE the doctor will not give me a full release to go back to work until I have the next surgery. I am unable to go back to get the next surgery – BECAUSE my insurance is suspended. The insurance is suspended – BECAUSE I cannot go back to work. I am in a whirlpool….with this mess…

      In the meanwhile, I have applied for SSDI – have been denied throughout this process…hired an attorney to hopefully help me.

      I have not told my boss that I have applied for SSDI – I considered being on “personal leave” by the HR department and by the insurance company. BUT my office and my boss said that they know where I am and they know that I am on medical leave – Thank God that my job is a UNION job…or they could have FIRED me back last September (2010) a week after the first surgery!

      NOW for my question: What are the “odds” of winning or losing the case at this point? Is there any way to figure a length of time for this ALH hearing?

      AND: Since my medical insurance has been suspended, I really do not want to rack up the medical bills, how can I get medical help?

      (NOTE: I do not have an income at all. NOTHING! I am in the middle of applying for food stamps just to be able to feed myself and doing so makes me feel like crap, because I have never asked for this type of "help" before in my life. This does not help with depression at all!)

      Now that your eyes are bleeding from reading my "book"...if you have any information or knowledge to pass on I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks for your time, too,

      Carrie D

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      lb 5 years ago

      @frikfrac- We were approved September 22, 2011. Our rep told us we should receive payment in 4-6 weeks. It has been 6 weeks yesterday. I heard it was the most busiest SS office and the largest. Lucky US! Everyday I check my checking account to see if the direct deposit went in and everyday I get worried that for some reason they may change their mind and say we decided to deny you after all. I guess I just don't have much faith in SS even though my husband is approved. Good Luck let me know if you get yours and I will do the same for you.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Carrie, every city/state is different. The wait time from denile to hearing can range from 6 months to 18 months. As far as your odds, from my research 70 percent of all cases win. The problem 7percent win at the first level, 13 percent at the reconsideration level and 50 percent at the hearing level. I bet it would be higher but people give up, so with good board certified doctors, a good Social Security Attorney and medical documents to support your condition you should be fine. I hope I was able to help and good luck.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Carrie, every city/state is different. The wait time from denile to hearing can range from 6 months to 18 months. As far as your odds, from my research 70 percent of all cases win. The problem 7percent win at the first level, 13 percent at the reconsideration level and 50 percent at the hearing level. I bet it would be higher but people give up, so with good board certified doctors, a good Social Security Attorney and medical documents to support your condition you should be fine. I hope I was able to help and good luck.

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      James Bowden 5 years ago from Long Island, New York

      Hi Habee:

      I knew right away before reading your article about SSDI, that it was going to be not only very useful, but awesome as well. In fact my finger hurt holding the down arrow key, because it took me that long to get to the last comment. Anyway thanks for sharing this information. I do have a family member who is in the process of getting SSDI. After reading your article, she definitely will not give up hope. To add, she has documentation to support her illness, which is without a doubt legitimate. I believe this article will give her that added bit of encouragement not to give up hope. Again greatly appreciate the information which I voted up, useful and awesome as well. Happy Hubbing!

      Jl

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      Hi, Jl! Good to see you!

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      Holle Abee 5 years ago from Georgia

      To everyone: I appreciate everyone here! I can't get here as much as I'd like, so I'm very grateful to readers who are trying to help others - especially Bogey. Also, please understand that every case is different. It's next to impossible to look at a case and say whether or not it will be approved for SSDI - unless you're a lawyer. There are just too many variables.

      I have a friend who's going through the process now, and she's been told that GA is backed up with disability claims. Your state may or may not be the same.

      As I've already stated, Bogey knows more about the ins and outs of getting approved for Social Security disability than I do. In my original hub, I just shared my personal experience and what worked best for me and my case. I was approved quickly. I had no idea this hub would take off like it has!

      Blessings to all, and hang in there!!

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      wall eye 5 years ago

      help me what should i do can this get me disability. start with this is work comp case & doctor. i had fusion of my c4/5 of my neck 10 months ago and a double lumbar disctectomy of l3/4 & 4/5 six weeks ago my neck constantly in pain and spasms. to point i just ice up my neck and lay down.i still have numbness and week shaky arm on left side ive told doctor this many times and just get a blank stare. my hip low back are in constant pain to some degree and my leg just aches all the time and now always feels restless.im 41 and just lost my job would all this qualify me for permanent dissability

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Wall Eye. Your condition is more then enough to find you disabled. Your are is against you because Social Security will try to say your young enough to do some other type of work. I was 41 when I became disabled and they tried to say I may be disabled from doing my previous job but I'm young enough to do something else. Your education and they type of work you did also work against you. If you did sedentary work, it's tougher for them to train you to do construction work. However, if you did construction work they can try to find you a desk job. The bottom line is if your doctor is a specialist and has documented your condition your case is much stronger. Also, if your doctor agrees your not able to work 40 hours a week 8 hours a day, your disability claim is even stronger. You need a Board Certified Doctor who is willing to support you disabled. That being said, Social Security doesn't follow it's own rules. From my research 70 percent of all cases get approved but only 7 percent get approved at the first level. 13 percent at the reconsideration level and 50 percent at the Hearing level. To help you more, let us know a bit about your education and work history. Also have you filed for disability yet? Habee's information above is very useful when starting the process. I didn't know about this site when I started and was denied twice. Honestly, I thought my condition would improve when I first filed. I also only filed because my long term disability insurance company made me. My mistake. After I filed, I had two major surgeries and over a dozen medical procedures. So my condition became worse after I filed. If I had spoken to my doctors before filing I would have been in a better position to understand my condition and probably won my case quicker. Let us know a little more about you so we can help you avoid making any mistakes. Just so you know after I filed I had hip replacement surgery and spinal fusion from my L2 to S1. That alone would have won my case because it's an injury to 2 major weight bearing areas of my body. Add all the physical therapy and medication, my case lasted less then 10 mins before my Hearing Judge. Spinal injuries are tough to prove, but you have already had surgery and will probably need more. I'm sure you also take medication that cause you side effects. Good luck, give us some more information so we can give you as much advise as possible. Were not attorneys but we have been in your position.

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      lb omg that is ridiculous waiting that long forgod sakes eveythhing is computerized today lol..I feel if you are succesful they should have 30 days or less to pay you.It's likke push here dummy lol for them not like all the numbers are not there already lol.

      NOW my 2 son will get this also through me so do they get a back check also????

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      will my boys get a retro check also for being independants of a disabiled dad back 2 years like me??

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      @ lb i think that if we don't pay the gov. we would be charged 8% interest so why can't we draw interest off of them if it goes over 30days might make them take there feet off there desks and do some work lol... uncalled for when approved it should be done immediatly period.

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      wall eye 5 years ago

      bogey,

      to start thanks for your time,as stated im 41yr old with a GED education level and was injured on the job. i worked for a larger tire manufacturing company that just closed i have worked there for the last 17 yrs. i have always been in some form of laborer hourly job.i am still currently on meds hydrocodone and muscle relaxers im currently in physical therapy for my back and man it's killing me. i have not filed for disability since im currently drawing work comp so i still have some cash flow. as stated its a work comp case with work comp doctor and i truly doubt for much help for him for any disability aid . not to say he's not a good doctor but he is being paid to return people to work asap.as i said just lost job to plant closing now physically im not the man i used to be and never will be again,have wife and two children and i was only income now with my injury's i can only imagine trying to finding a job. it hurts to sit or stand for any real length of time with my back and my neck is just a whole other monster.with my head tilted up or down more than a few minutes really causes alot of irritation resulting in headaches and extreme burning in my neck, not to mention i have lost strength, dexterity,and stability in my hand and arm . im just sick im only 41 and struggle now to enjoy life now. everyday is different i may feel decent today then do a little then regret it for a week . i pray GOD bless everyone who struggles with these sort of issues i never imagined i would be like this but here i am.

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      lb 5 years ago

      @frikfrac- I think that's a great idea. They would have no problem charging us interest if we were late paying.

      Does anyone know about the Ticket to Work Program?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Wall Eye, believe it or not, worker comp would love for you to get approved for Social Security Disability for two reasons. First you will receive Medicare and second they won't have to pay you as much or they will just offer you a settlement. As I previously said your medical condition is very strong to support you. Also since you did physical work, 1/2 the work Social Security may want to place you in you can no longer do. Those are all in your favor. If I was you I would go speak to a local Social Security Attorney. It's free and an Attorney in your city/state can direct you to every resource available. In addition, a local Attorney probably knows your workers comp doctor. Remember workers comp is always screwing of injured workers so a good Attorney will know or know someone who knows your doctor. Also not to put you down, but the higher your education the more work Social Security can find for you as well. I think you have a strong case, you may have to fight to win but that's because your age not disability. Good luck, and see an Attorney. Get all your medical records together, keep a file and get everything documented. Then file with Social Security. Just remember, don't trust them or anything they say.

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      @LB someone told me 2 days ago that they called the ss office everyday at least 2 times and after she started to do that they had everything for her in less than a week lol i would thinnk if everyone did that we would be tieing up our workers and makeing things go slower but it worked for her..have you been calling them?

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      lb 5 years ago

      @frikfrac- Yes we have been calling them and so has my representative. He is calling them again on Wednesday, but I think you are right, Maybe I will call them everyday and annoy them to death so that they will get on it lol. Apparently they are still calculating everything. I guess they are not mathematicians. I even wrote Jackie Spieres office again to see if they can light a fire under them. It worked for the court date who knows can't hurt to try.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Wall Eye. I have a friend who was injured on the job over 10 years ago. He still receives workers comp and Social Disability. Workers comp has made him offers to settle but he's hired a workers comp Attorney because what they offered is not enough. He's not trying to be greedy, but he was injured because of someone being careless. In addition, after his injury they fired him because he couldn't go back to work. The Attorney won that battle and he's back receiving workers comp, but he feels his job owes him for 22 years of sick and vacation time he never used plus when he was fired he had to pay for major medical surgery. I don't know how workers comp works, but in some states they stop paying after a certain time limit. In my Friends case, the workers comp doctors said he needs another surgery but workers comp won't pay. Because it happened on the job, Medicare and his private insurance won't cover it either. Since I've been on Habee's Hubpage and done my own research it's unreal how many people get screwed by our broken health system. Good luck and keep fighting!

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      I had a call just now from my disability case worker asking if she could call me in the AM (because of the late hour) to discuss my job duties. I suppose she meant what I did for the last 35 years as an RN. Anyone else had this talk?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      When I filled out in the beginning, Social Security called me for some further questions @ @ concerning my application for Disability. Makes no sence since they have your W-2, but maybe they want to know if you treated patients or worked in a lab or even an office. Remember, every question has reasons. If you worked in a lab, they can try to find desk work, if you worked in the ER, they can say your disabled from that type of work but, you can do seditary work. Be consistent with your answers. If you can stand for twenty mins then need to rest, tell them. Same with sitting and walking.

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Thanks Bogie, I was just thinking about it and I am pretty sure that I gave her my job description in an earlier conversation but could be wrong. It will be three months next week since applying so when I see the number on caller ID I get nervous. Thanks again for your response. It helps just to talk to someone who has been through it all. Best wishes and hope things are going well for you and yours now.

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      Gary 5 years ago

      Hi Nancy, I am a disabled MRI tech who has been doing the same type of work for 25 yrs. I was asked similar questions, ie how much standing sitting lifting pulling etc.. I was also asked how my disabilities affect my day to day activities. I recently completed a comprehensive medical exam, and mental exam. I have documented proof of my disablities on my labwork. Listen to Bogie, he has some great advise. Since I completed my ce's last week, can anybody guesstimate how much longer? I live in San Diego, Ca. Thanks, G

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Thanks Gary, I thought I filled out a form about all of this shortly after I first applied but the memory is not what it used to be.How long has it been since you applied?

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Nancy. What I did because they ask you the same questions or similar questions, I made a file and copied everything. I took my file with me to every meeting with Social Security, had it with me when they called and took it to my doctors. Also the forms my doctors completed I had copies as well. Another important thing is get copies of your doctors reports. That helps because months or in my case 3 years later, my doctor just used my copy of his report that I had to be consistent. After seeing different doctors you forget things. This made completing the forms easy for my doctor and supported my statements of daily activities, things I do, things I was restricted from doing. It also verified my limitations, sitting, standing and walking for different time periods. It also was a way for me to evaluate my number of good days, bad days and keep track of my pain levels and medications. You may feel good on one visit to your doctor, then a few months later feel awful. Doctors know your going to have ups and downs. Just make sure it's documented and keep copies. I can't proof it but I think Social Security is just trying to catch inconstancies. Good luck!

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Wise advise, Bogie. I have been pretty good about keeping files,labs and tests from my two different cancers in 7 years but not many would think to keep a running copy of their statements to SSDI. At my age and since the stroke last year, I find my memory no longer very good.I should have made copies of all the paper work I had to fill out but didn't. Wish I had of found this site before I did. You give great advice and I know so many appreciate your service as much as I do. Thank you!

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Nancy. I learned from my mistakes. So I hope any information I post helps you and anyone in your position. It's such a slow process and most of us are dealing with our health, families, money issues and Social Security's messed up system. I hope your disability case moves quickly, so you can put one less stressful issue behind you. Good luck.

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Well, I completed the call after over an hour. I felt sorry for the case manager, so overwhelmed with work and so many cases. Thanks to Bogey, I had my ducks in a row and all my files before me as I spoke. She said she has received over 200 medical files from my various docs but of course they were not in chronological order. At the end I asked if I was getting close to a determination, since next week it will be 3 months, but she would not commit to a definitive answer.So the waiting continues. I am so glad I found Habee's site and for all the wonderful information I have gleaned from those who have gone before or are presently going through the process. It makes you feel like you are not alone.Bless all of you good people!

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      Carrie D 5 years ago

      @ bogey: Thank you so much for your comments! I guess I am on the right track with hiring my attorney. Just having my (work) medical insurance suspended has me worried right now because I cannot go to see my doctors. I really don't want to rack up the medical bills. I recently came through a terrible divorce and had major "bills" that came through it with the divorce papers. It has taken me a long time to get those "bills" paid off -- long enough that I was getting calls from several collection agencies. I really don't want that experience again! But I guess in order to get the medical help I have to go to the ER (IF they will see me) and try....I feel crappy right now -- as I said the depression is worse. Not having the medicine that "helps" with this is not a good thing either...but I will stick with it and hope for the best! I am just not used to being at home and not working. I usually work 2 or 3 jobs at a time plus attending school. It is so hard to go from all that to nothing!

      Thanks again for your comments!

      Carrie D

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      Carrie D 5 years ago

      @ frikfrat and lb: are you both saying that you called the SS office on a daily basis to get your hearing date and that sort of sped up the process? I have read through the comments and must have missed something, because I only see these last two postings...

      I do apologize that I jumped into your conversation too....

      Carrie D.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Nancy. I'm glad you spoke to your case worker. Now he or she will get it ready for the first review and they will decide if you need to see a Social Security doctor or they may just make a decision on the spot. I will keep my fingers crossed they make a quick decision and approve you based on the information they already have. @Carrie. I made so many calls during my case and got nothing but the same answers. Your file is still being reviewed, it's being sent to another state for review or the status is pending. Then a day or two later a letter of denile would come in the mail. They know what's going on, they just don't want to say anything because if they say your denied over the phone they know your going to get into an argument with them. Even the Hearing Judges rarely make bench decisions, because they don't want confrontations in the hearig office. All the letters have a tracking labels on them and they know your status. It's probably a policy not to say anything to people going through the process. Even if you go on line to check the status, all you see is case pending. Good luck everyone.

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      OKAY so i went to my ss office a friend of mine told me to take any shut off notice and to write a quick letter explaining any hardship with me.Was taken right in and said ooo there only waiting for 1 paper and then you should be fine!! She also said this one paper could have made me wait weeeeeks so i went home got the paper waited again for my number about 1/2 hour and they did all my paper pushing right then and there she said you should have your money in a week or sooner!!!! SO IF THIS PANS OUT I'll let you know.But as far as I'm concerned go to your local office and be face to face with them and you will get answers.I called 4 times in 2 days and got nothing went in and had answers in 5 minutes!! don't be one of those people to wait for them or you will be waiting.

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      frikfrac 5 years ago

      @carrie no that was to get our money after the fact...BUT BEFORE MY HEARING I called my lawyer and told him about my shut-offs etc and he got me a hardship hearing which will bump you up the list(it did me).then don't mess around once you find out your approved go directly to your local ss office and find out from them if your missing anything so your not waiting weeks and then get a call saying oops were missing a paper or signature lol because they will

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      lb 5 years ago

      @ Carrie- Same as Frikfrac. I just keep bugging them. My representative keeps bugging them as well. He said he finally got someone that seems to know what they are doing. She said they have to do all the calculations with workmans comp and disability before they can send the back pay. The problem is all my papers were sent weeks ago and they of course couldn't find them so my representative had to send them again and tell them this is a hardship and you need to get on it now and she agreed so hopefully (fingers crossed) we will be seeing payment soon. SS is one big mess. It seems that you have to keep on them constantly. Even though she may seem like she is going to make things happen, my husband is going down to the local office tomorrow. We shall see what happens.

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      Gary 5 years ago

      Hi Nancy, I applied for my disability in September, 1 year after my disability prohibited me from working. You sound like you are organized and that will help you alot. I wih you well, and lots of luck! :) Gary

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Thanks Gary for your response. I just received a call from my case manager to tell me she had discussed my case with her supervisor and that they want me to see a psychologist and a doctor for an exam. I have told her several times that I would be glad to see any doc she wants me to so she will call Monday to let me know who and where. Don't know if this means progress or a delay.

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Gary, I applied in Aug of this year after being retired since June of 2010. Sounds like you applied just after me. How is yours progressing? Hopefully well.

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      Nancy(Aunt Louise) 5 years ago

      Can anyone tell me how long after you see their doctors do they make a decision? This is so nerve wracking, isn't it?

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      Carrie D 5 years ago

      @ frikfrat and lb: Thank you! I am currently awaiting for the date to go in front of the Judge! It really hasn't taken me very long to get to this point. Thank goodness, and I hope the rest of this process goes a bit faster!

      @ Nancy: I saw their doctors (two of them -- only!) then the next week I got denied. AFTER their doctors sent them detailed document saying that I was disabled and that I was "suffering" from chronic depression, that this disability has made worse. Yes, I do have copies of these reports -- and yes, my attorney does have the same copies.

      By the way, the SS doctors USUALLY will not give the patient copies of their reports (or so I am told) but for some reason when I asked they gave me a copy. They both (the doctors for the SS) told me that I should be approved and that they would send their reports saying this. I do not understand why the SS denied me -- since they base some of their findings on what THEIR doctors say...it is making me crazy.

      As you will notice, Nancy (and everyone else), everyone on this HUB will remind you to make sure you get copies of all reports (therapy and medical) for your own files and if you choose to hire an attorney for those files too.

      Make sure you document EVERYTHING -- including phone calls to and from the SS office. Please remember to include complete names of whom you talk to in that office AND the date (and time).

      I have a friend who kept telling the judge that "this lady" or "this man" from the SS office said ..... and the judge would ask "WHAT LADY" or "WHAT MAN".

      That judge wanted NAMES of everyone my friend spoke to! Because my friend was saying that the people to whom she spoke was making promises that they (the SS employees) had no legal right to make!

      No, I don't remember what they were promising...AND this was several years ago (about 10 years ago)! It took her almost 6 years to get approved for SSI. She lived in Tennessee....

      I am still waiting for the hearing date to go in to court....and I understand (as we all do) when you say that this is "nerve wracking", Nancy! good luck to you...I'll keep my fingers crossed that your case is finished quickly...

      Carrie D

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      dazeeblue 5 years ago

      I'm waiting to hear about a reconsideration. I'm wondering if they are going to send me to another psychologist. Before their denial, they sent me to a psychologist and an internist for a breathing test. The internist told me to go talk to a priest. In the denial, they never mentioned the psychologist report, only the internist report. I've found the lawyer I want to hire so it is just a wait and see now. Just can't believe it might take years to get approved. I'm a widow, will be 52 in January and I can start SS at 60, I just hope this is approved before that.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Nancy. Every case is different. The doctors Social Security sends you to usually see a lot of people for them and they don't always specialize in the area of yor disability. In my case they sent me to a pediatrician and I have hip and spinal problems. Bring all your medical records and a list of your medications. When I saw the Social Security doctor see didn't even know what my hip condition is. See made about a hundred copies from my file. It really was a joke. I had to explain the different procedures to her and the waiting room was full of kids. Also, take your meds because when you go, they treat you like a first time visit. You spend 20 mins filling out paper work. So if you have your file your answers will be consistent and you won't forget your meds. Sound silly, but I can't remember all my medications and the doses each one is. I just give my prescriptions to CVS and since I take 9 different medications it easy to forget or get confused. I feel your stress. I went through it for over 3 years and the closer you get the more you worry. Your not alone. It's so sad that you work your entire life, pay taxes, your a good citizen yet the Social Security Disability process makes you feel like you've done something wrong. To answer your question, Social Security probably has the reports in a few weeks but they will be reviewed by a doctor who doesn't ever see you. Then he or she will make the final decision. Try to stay strong and positive.

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Does sending you to their docs mean a sure denial or has anyone who had a CE been approved? Thanks to all of you for your kind responses and advice. Very much appreciated.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Nancy. I thing everyone sees a Social Security doctor, unless your case is extremely severe or you meet step three of the approval process. Those are the people who win at the first level. Go to Social Security's web site and see the list of impairments. Now what they don't tell you is age plays into the process. They just won't tell you that.

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      wall eye 5 years ago

      thank you so much bogey for your time and info im so glad i stumbled onto this site.

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      Carrie, thank you for your post, did they tell you why they denied you if the docs said you were disabled? Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it. Did you ever win your case?

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      Nancy 5 years ago

      My case manager told me she had received over 200 pages of medical evidence from my 3 docs and that the cancer specialist had sent only through 2008 so she was having to call them to get the more recent evidence since I am back on chemo. I have a PCP,Neurologist and a Hematologist/Oncologist. Every time I get a piece of mail from SS,I sit and look at it for a few minutes because I am afraid to open it. I am afraid of a denial. In 2005 when the second and non curable cancer was found the docs said I may have 10 yrs more or less. I hope I hear soon it's been 6 years and time is drawing nigh.I got mail from them yesterday saying they had erred in calculating my SS from last year and that I would be getting a check for the difference in Dec.and I would be getting about $20 more a month in my SS check. Grateful for anything.Maybe the Grand-babies will actually get something from me this year!

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      To all going through Social Security's Disability process. It really makes no difference what the doctor or doctors Social Security sends you to say. Those doctors only make a recommendation based on a visit. Social Security has it's own group so called medical experts. They are the people who never talk to you or examine you, they just decide your fate. My Social Security Doctor found me disabled yet my file was denied. I saw it during the Hearing process. My Attorney had my entire file. My only advise is just do everything they ask and if your denied get an Attorney.

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      lb 5 years ago

      My husband went into the local SS office yesterday. I suggest anyone who wants to speed things up do the same. The SS worker was very nice and understood our predicament. He said he put a rush on it and said we should get payment next week. He said they have already calculated everything and we would probably get the monthly benefit before the lump sum and if we don't then call him on Wednesday. He even told us it is better to go in person than to call on the phone because they can give you more information. I hope he is right.

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      Afraid888 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

      I want to say Thank You for all the great posts here. I am waiting for the copies of my medical records from my orthopedic doctor. He told me that he would sign papers saying I am disabled and cannot work. The doctors office said it takes a month to get the copies of the records. I just want this to be over very soon.

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      Nancy(Aunt Louise) 5 years ago

      Bogey, I was reading over the past postings and came across yours from last Thanksgiving and got a real chuckle out of it. It sounded just like my son's. They are 46 and 40 and 5 days of football makes for a "good life" for them too. The oldest has 5 boys himself and it is a real party on Thanksgiving at their house.

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      Nancy(Aunt Louise) 5 years ago

      I wonder if the fact that I am 63 is going to go against me in the decision making. I wonder if they think since I am almost 65 there is really no reason to grant my disability but I still have to pay for my health insurance and for the many many meds I am on not to mention car insurance and taxes. Well you all know what I am talking about. I get such a paltry sum since I had to retire at 62 that it is a struggle to make ends meet. My husband is on SS but he pays for everything else and we live 52 miles from Gainesville,so every trip to my docs (every 3 months and every 8 weeks) is over 100 miles and takes a lot of gas money. We have our place for sale so we can go back to our home and be near the boys and my sisters but the way things are (not) selling , it is going to take a long time if ever. I have a 35 year work history and had hoped and felt sure I would make it to 66 despite the pain but then the 2nd cancer surgery,the stroke,arachnoid cyst in my brain and bad carpal tunnel in both wrists all diagnosed or occurred last year and I could no longer work. I realize I am rambling and apologize but I am getting close to a decision and am very nervous. I think many of you have felt this anxiety and understand my need to write or talk. Sorry if I am boring anyone but this site has been a real blessing to me.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Nancy. Your age is going to help you. It's not like they can train you for very many jobs at your age regardless of your education. You just need to pray the people reviewing you case and situation have feelings for disabled people. Your more than qualified to meet Social Security's definition of being disabled. Your doctors support your disability, your medical file supports your condition. You just need the right person to review your file for approval. I had a jerk review my file. He determined my condition would improve and I was young enough to do something other than my previous job. I feel you will be fine based on your age and condition. Hang in there, good luck. I don't mean to bash Social Security, but they have a history of denying people who are more than qualified for disability benefits. That being said, I believe your case will get approved. Again good luck.

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      Carrie D 5 years ago

      Hi, Nancy:

      No, my case is still in "limbo" -- I am waiting for it to go to court (actually waiting for the court date). But it looks like it has gone quickly from start to now…I applied in April 2011.

      The only thing that was sent to me was the denial letter -- and it says:

      "We have determined that your overall medical condition is expected to respond to treatment and is not expected to remain disabling for 12 months in a row.

      We realize your condition will prevent the return to any past jobs.

      However, it will not prevent doing less demanding work.

      Based on your age (046 years and 09 months), education (24 years), and past work experience, we have determined that your overall medical condition will allow the performance of other work.

      If your condition does not improve as expected, write, call or visit any Social Security office."

      NOW, based on my "medical condition" and "not expected to remain disabling for 12 months in a row" -- I had my first (2) surgery LAST September (2010). The next (2) was in December (2010) and the "last" surgery (which also would be 2 surgeries) would have been May 1, 2011.

      IF my medical insurance was not suspended (got suspended because I was denied short-term medical disability because the Doctor's office did not turn in the medical reports as the insurance company thought that they should (according to the doctor's office the insurance company would CALL and request the paper work AND that is against all HIPPA laws. Therefore, the doctor's office would not send them requested that way -- I had to go into the office and get the paperwork and FAX it to the insurance company. The insurance company then tells me that they cannot accept the paperwork from me because it is not direct from the doctor's office. Needless to say, the attorney is handling that too!).

      HOWEVER, I have been off work completely since the middle of September 2010 – that means that “my condition” has remained disabling for OVER 12 months in a row. My doctor has released me to go back to work – Light duty, one handed. BUT the companies I work for (yes, I work 2 full time jobs) do not have what they call “light duty, one handed” jobs for my position. Also, I am a union worker – therefore, both companies has to put me into a “union” held position…and none of those positions have “light duty” anything!

      Given my “past work experience”, the only job that I have not had is standing on the street corner and selling my body!

      Since it looks as though they have based everything on my age, education, and work experience INSTEAD of what THEIR doctors have documented – then I wonder why they waste the taxpayer’s money on that process in the first place!

      Yes, I am young (now I am 47)…yes, I have a massive amount of education…yes, I have tons and tons of work experience. BUT that has nothing to do with NOT being able to use my hands and arms.

      When I got this letter in the mail – I called the SS office and spoke to the person I had my initial interview with (I guess that is called the “intake interview”), Ms. Jones.

      I asked her what type of job could I do without the usage of my hands and arms – she had no response. NOT that she did not know…but she actually did not respond to that at all. She ignored it all together. Which I felt was very rude especially AFTER making sure that I knew her name was MS. JONES…..not Rita or Rita Jones – BUT MS. JONES. Yes, she is MUCH younger than I am…..she was in her mid-20.

      Okay – I went off on a tangent and I will now step off my soapbox!

      I wish everyone good luck on their cases and wish them all a speedy transaction!

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      lb 5 years ago

      @ Carrie- Are you out of California? Very strange but the first person we dealt with at SS was a Miss Jones lol. She was useless and told us that My husband will most likely get turned down even after the appeal process until we go to court. We went to court and he got a favorable. He started the process in 2008. He is also 47, educated and worked over 25 years as a Journyman Tech and Foreman with lots of education as well. He has severe arthritis in both hands, shoulder, a knee replacement and another on the way.He also has psoriatic arthritis and some loss of hearing. Wow reading this wouldn't you approve him. Nope he had to keep appealing and finally got to see the judge. The judge did make a comment at the hearing to him and his representative "well he's not in a wheel chair." I could not believe it. So when we got the approval letter we were in shock. All I can say is keep pushing. If you are unable to work then your medical records will reflect it. Make sure you have a good representative. My husband went to the first hearing without one and they sent him away and told him to get an attorney and they would reschedule. We also wrote our congress woman and her office sped up the process. Now we wait for the payment, hopefully next week. Good luck to you and keep pushing.

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      Bogey 5 years ago

      @Carrie. My Attorney was a former Social Security Judge. He told me it's about your age first and people giving up second. Across the nation, 70 percent of all cases are approved. The problem is only 7 percent get approved at the initial level. That's where you deal with the Miss. Jones personalities. I was 41 when I became disabled and my letter was similar. Your condition has not gotten any worse and even though you can no longer perform your previous job, given your age and education you can find other types of work. My Attorney explained that Social Security has vocational experts who can place you into a job that may not even exist in your city or state. That's why I tell anyone under 50 get a Social Security Attorney from your area. In your case Carrie, they already violated one of the rules that qualify you. You are out of work because of your disability for 12 month or expected to miss 12 months. The entire process is messed up. They have 5 steps to use when they evaluate you. Step three is where most people automatically win. The problem is, they use step 5 and find work that you don't even have experience doing, never done and don't even know what it is. they base step 5 on your age, being youg enough to retrain and education. It's a very unfair system. I should have been automatically approved under step 3's list of impairments but they denied me. Now at the Hearing Level, my Judge approved my on the spot. She never even let the vocational expert speak. My Judge talked to me and Social Security's Doctor during my hearing. Once the doctor said my condition met 4 different sections of step 3's list of impairments, my Judge said I've heard enough, I'm making a Bench Decision. Carrie, this is just typical of the early stages of the process. They hope you get desperate and go do work even though your disabled. They hope you don't file your appeals on time so they can close out your case. It's such a messed up system and it seems like nobody cares now with the economy they way it is, they think we are faking. Stay strong. Good luck.

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      Nancy(Aunt Louise) 5 years ago

      Carrie, I understand your frustration. Everyone I talk to these days are younger than me but I always call them MR or Ms or Mrs. I think you really stumped them when asking what work can I do without arms or hands. I went back and read your original post and can't believe the similarities between us despite the age difference. I am 5'10", did weigh what you weigh at your age,have suffered from social phobia all of my life.I go no where but to docs anymore due to chronic back,buttock and hip pain. Can't even sit through church services anymore. I have TMJ,fibromyalgia,and many more diagnoses. Carpal tunnel diagnosed this year.First noticed the pain several years ago when lifting large patient charts to document on but thought it was arthritis so never really mentioned it to anyone until this year. I now have chronic bursitis of the hips as well on my list of dx. I say to anyone who has worked as long and as hard as most of the people on this site have,"Get everything you can". If you don't someone less deserving will. I am sorry for the rejection and humiliation we all must go through to get what we have worked for and paid for over the years. I do pray for all on this site that the frustration,scrutiny and time waiting will be as minimal as possible. Bless all of you young people.

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      Afraid888 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

      Can anyone here tell me if they ever had to pay for copies of their medical records? I am up against a brick wall as I have to pay for my records so I can get them to my lawyer to move my case forward.

      What do I do now?

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      lb 5 years ago

      @ afraid888-We signed a release so our representative could get copies. We were told that after the case then we would pay our representative for them as an expense. I would talk to your attorney about requesting your records. He should be able to take care of it.We have not paid for anything. Good Luck

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